From "Diablo Killer" to "Advertisement for why you should go back to Diablo 4".

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iMirageX#4580 wrote:

As you may have noticed, POE 1 and POE 2 is somewhat different from your other ARPGs. In other games, you might be able to progress to the highest difficulty even if your build is all over the place. In POE, this will be highlighted severely in end game because (refer to your complaints). Hard doesn't equate to being shit nor does it equate to being bad. When something is "not fun" for you, did you ask yourself if "did I do everything to fix my build?", "did I understand why was I one shotted?"

To those saying artificial this and artificial that, what is even natural and artificial in a game? If a dev team made the game and launch it in EA, doesn't all system and penalty encompassing the game when it was launch in EA is "natural"? If you are having a hard time on something or having difficulty coping up, that is not "artificially difficult"

If you think about it, "anti-player", "anti-fun" or whatever you want to label it is not really appropriate in a game when it is a business. POE simply made a stand to not lower its baseline difficulty. You don't want to put the effort to learn how to play POE? then you get your result.

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Macellomatik#7988 wrote:

When I started playing PoE2 it felt so much better than Diablo4.

Diablo4 did nothing new except for an over-complicated itemization system, and its main feature is the campaign + cinematics + the first whole map completion that is really enjoyable and rewarding.

At the beginning its itemization had the huge issue that a build would only work if the full set of items and effects (aspects) was equipped, and this, along with low drops and too much rng needed for decent items, meant you would never change a single item, especially in the endgame.
This is actually a lot closer to the PoE1 style of endgame than traditional Diablo.
Also this is why the endgame became boring and me and all my friends abandoned it (on top of it not having cool endgame mechanics like PoE has)

In a recent patch they made items more easy to find and craft items, made aspects collectible (so you only had to find it once to have it permanently) and overall eased how hard it is to find a decent item, while maintaining god-rolls super rare.
It became much much better and I enjoyed bringing multiple characters well deep in the endgame. But still the lack of mechanics made it boring eventually.

All this is the preamble to say one thing:
While the campaing of PoE2 is fantastic, the endgame simply becomes like PoE1 or Diablo4 "vanilla" if you want.

The useless items / low loot / low Orbs / no Omens issues simply make it impossible to get new gear unless you spend all day trading in a super toxic system.
Also this forces the "1-skill-zoom clear-as-fast-as-possible play-class-that-can-cap-Magic-Find" meta to have at least a minor chance at improving.
The xp loss on death is just icing on that cake (but would be ok by itself).

However, all this stuff can be fixed via balancing, imho.

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Timbo Zero#8289 wrote:

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Macellomatik#7988 wrote:

When I started playing PoE2 it felt so much better than Diablo4.

Diablo4 did nothing new except for an over-complicated itemization system, and its main feature is the campaign + cinematics + the first whole map completion that is really enjoyable and rewarding.

At the beginning its itemization had the huge issue that a build would only work if the full set of items and effects (aspects) was equipped, and this, along with low drops and too much rng needed for decent items, meant you would never change a single item, especially in the endgame.
This is actually a lot closer to the PoE1 style of endgame than traditional Diablo.
Also this is why the endgame became boring and me and all my friends abandoned it (on top of it not having cool endgame mechanics like PoE has)

In a recent patch they made items more easy to find and craft items, made aspects collectible (so you only had to find it once to have it permanently) and overall eased how hard it is to find a decent item, while maintaining god-rolls super rare.
It became much much better and I enjoyed bringing multiple characters well deep in the endgame. But still the lack of mechanics made it boring eventually.

All this is the preamble to say one thing:
While the campaing of PoE2 is fantastic, the endgame simply becomes like PoE1 or Diablo4 "vanilla" if you want.

The useless items / low loot / low Orbs / no Omens issues simply make it impossible to get new gear unless you spend all day trading in a super toxic system.
Also this forces the "1-skill-zoom clear-as-fast-as-possible play-class-that-can-cap-Magic-Find" meta to have at least a minor chance at improving.
The xp loss on death is just icing on that cake (but would be ok by itself).

However, all this stuff can be fixed via balancing, imho.

I’d agree with all of this except the campaign part. For me I’d suggest the campaign is backwards and starts too hard and ends too easy. Reverse that so the start is a little easier and the end is a reasonable amount harder and it’s ideal.
This ofc doesn’t take into account that acts 4-6 could solve the later issue but the prior issue remains imo
Normal as too harsh at start to bring in new players and retain them, cruel was far too easy once we had geared up to replay the first 3 acts again.

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Timbo Zero#8289 wrote:

The problem is that at least in poe1 it was relatively ‘easy’ (with some guidance, knowledge or time) to make a build that was both ethical and powerful. In poe2 I get that they (ggg) are attempting to keep us in league (when they come) for longer than the typical few weeks we do in poe1, the methods they have used to achieve this actually (imo) work against that objective.
The game has no ethical power, no meaningful loot and have an endgame with ridiculous farms for minimal returns.

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KingHadu#3474 wrote:

Diablo 4 female sorceress looks like a ugly man.

It's enough for me to never touch that game

At least POE 2's Witch and Sorc are HOT AF