Please, respect our time when doing such drastic balance changes

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Gogolo30#6034 wrote:
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Lord_Tao#3544 wrote:
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Gogolo30#6034 wrote:


Right, I was speaking about the first paragraph in the post I quoted. As for what you should do with your character, I would reroll. The nerfs have everything to do with the unfinished state of the game, no idea what you could possibly mean by stating otherwise.


So what happens when someone gets a few reroll characters bricked before endgame? How many times through the campaign should they go? This is a potential problem, so, again, passive respects should be given out.

As many players have said, there was nothing wrong with the "Cast on..." skills, yet CoC needs to crit 100 normal mobs for one cast of a 1 second cast time skill. Is GGG watching highlight reels and nerfing anything that looks playable like Blizzard did on D4 launch?


They need feedback on the campaign too friend. I see no issues.


Luckily they get that done already with every player. What they will need more feedback on is individual builds, since a player will only play half a dozen? builds out of hundreds.

Sending them back into the campaign will just produce burn out, let alone waste time in the early access where other builds could be tested right away, and in end game off the bat.
Last edited by Lord_Tao#3544 on Dec 12, 2024, 12:28:35 AM
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How about you roll a new character. They don't need everyone just playing around in maps trying to copy the most recent thing they saw on YouTube.

Being allergic to campaign is a PoE1 symptom. Let's not have it develop in PoE2 as well.


What and Epic L take....

I put 60 hrs into my character, never looked at a build once , but this just trashed my build completely. Now I like many others, as you put it, would gladly reroll the same character and try something new. Hell if the Devs had the foresight to turn respeccing off I would try a new build a day and hunt for bugs/broken combos for them.

But instead what we got a was a screaming "F you" from the Devs in regards to our time and investment into the game. No one is saying don't make changes , make a hundred of them a day if they want , but don't make it at the cost of the player base who want to try things out and see new content. I'm glad you're mindless enough to just repeat a task like a hamster on a wheel, but that's boring as hell to most people.

This was a pretty basic ability combo , you freeze , you cast X spell. The Devs should know what these spells do . They are later abilities , something we should be getting as we start to feel a bit more powerful in our builds. If we are never supposed to have a moment when we feel powerful as a player then I don't get the story at all , why am I chosen t0 fight and not Jim Bob the trader? Why am I doing ascensions that no one else can ? The power fantasy is what games like this are supposed to be playing into , but how when you get nerfed down to basic peasant lvls...

The nerf should have been 10% of what it was at most, they needed to make a break in the loop, not break the entire build. These abilities are just not worth the time to put into builds and it takes a lot of the magic of PoE builds away....yes I know it's not PoE1, but we expected more freedoms, not less from the sequel. That's what was marketed. It's not what we are getting.

Today I logged on , seen my character was bricked and tried to build another character, right up to the point that I realised I wanted to use a similar ability to apply my mark and that it would almost never go off. At that point I felt the build crafting was garbage and I logged off to play another game, feeling disappointed and withdrawn from the game and asking if that is how customers are thought of do I even want to play...

Turn off repairs and let people craft builds...
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Gogolo30#6034 wrote:
How about you roll a new character. They don't need everyone just playing around in maps trying to copy the most recent thing they saw on YouTube.

Being allergic to campaign is a PoE1 symptom. Let's not have it develop in PoE2 as well.


How about you stop being an elitist jerk trying to dictate how people should play the game, and what constitutes fun for them?
So, can we now say that GGG has become like Blizzard, and PoE 2 is becoming D4-like? People discovered some great builds around mechanics like cast on ignite, cast on crit, cast on shock, and cast on freeze. But all of them have been nerfed to the ground so severely that they’re not just less effective—they’ve become literally unplayable.I had to spend over 300k to respec, and now I’m back to running maps with some laggy-as-hell fire build because the sheer number of projectiles is literally killing me. Great changes GGG :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFJQ-gAV_w
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Gogolo30#6034 wrote:
How about you roll a new character. They don't need everyone just playing around in maps trying to copy the most recent thing they saw on YouTube.

Being allergic to campaign is a PoE1 symptom. Let's not have it develop in PoE2 as well.


I'm sorry, but do any of you who make such statements think about it for a second? Well people create a new character, and bam next nerf, the game starts all over again... Is that supposed to be the solution? No, definitely not. But what will happen is that players will look at it once or twice and then stop playing. Which in turn would be very bad for GGG as fewer people will test the game.

There has to be another solution, otherwise it looks really bleak for PoE2...
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Gogolo30#6034 wrote:
How about you roll a new character. They don't need everyone just playing around in maps trying to copy the most recent thing they saw on YouTube.

Being allergic to campaign is a PoE1 symptom. Let's not have it develop in PoE2 as well.


I see.

So you want to play the campaign for 150 hours+ every three months... why exactly?

What is the campaign if not maps with a glowing yellow stick on npcs you have to click to get to the next map?

There's a reason people are "allergic" to the campaign. The campaign provides a lesser version of the endgame with some cutscenes and dialogue. The endgame is that gameplay with the ability to scale up difficulty (By map tiers) and more varied mechanics (Years of league mechanics) and the ability to scale those up in terms of difficulty and reward.

This is an argument I'd never understand unless you just want to say "Play campaign" as if it's something insightful, or to sound like a contrarian. What can you get out of the campaign in terms of gameplay that you can't get out of the endgame in a far better way?

EDIT: Aside from the story, which kind of becomes mindless once you've seen it three, five, ten, fifty times.
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The campaign provides a lesser version of the endgame with some cutscenes and dialogue.

It's not a "lesser" version.
It's a game. And the endgame is a game for particularly-minded people. And there's always considerably less of those than players who just play through campaign without touching endgame much if at all.

If you personally think that the game itself is inferior to endless bragging rights endgame, don't say it like it's an universally true fact.
GGG: want us to play their game and to make it better

Players: want to play the game and to make it better

Elitists: REEEE, don't play if you don't like it, it's perfect, GGG know what they do! You can't change it how you like it! Spank me harder daddy!

I mean, some people really do love to be abused.
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run4way#1170 wrote:
GGG: want us to play their game and to make it better

Players: want to play the game and to make it better

Elitists: REEEE, don't play if you don't like it, it's perfect, GGG know what they do! You can't change it how you like it! Spank me harder daddy!

I mean, some people really do love to be abused.


But you're the one complaining about the changes being made, lol.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3622561

Do you have split personality or something?
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
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Perq#4049 wrote:
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run4way#1170 wrote:
GGG: want us to play their game and to make it better

Players: want to play the game and to make it better

Elitists: REEEE, don't play if you don't like it, it's perfect, GGG know what they do! You can't change it how you like it! Spank me harder daddy!

I mean, some people really do love to be abused.


But you're the one complaining about the changes being made, lol.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3622561

Do you have split personality or something?


Do you have comprehending issues or something? Funny how people while not being called out directly still take things on their account.

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