Who was POE2 made for?

Made for me, thats for sure, also people like MrLlamaSC = essentially most people who love D2 and think POE1 lost the plot and let players make the game look all dumb.

POE2 actually a spiritual successor to D2... but with some tuning... better?
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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epiphase#4568 wrote:

Are you asking me why people expect for PoE2, sequel to PoE1, to be like PoE1?Do I have to tell you why we breath air? Please come eat sue side.
Or maybe I have to buy the next dark soul in hope to play a solid aRPG? Your mother should have kept her legs close.


So here's the essential problem: you think the silly trivial game POE1 devolved into the clear speed dumpster fire; "is what POE 1 is all about". As in the intentional design that GGG wanted.

You're wrong. Which is why POE2 corrected so many of those scoping mistakes.

Why does every clear speed meta player not have the first clue about POE1's history?

We're not even talking about 11 years ago... we're talking ProjectPT times ago or Mor's raging time frames... We're talking Bakedchicken vaal FB era POE when the game started BECOMING SOMETHING DUMB THAT GGG AND A LOT OF PLAYERS DIDN'T WANT. They were afraid to correct course with POE1 so they forked POE2.

This is why I hate the clear speed meta...
Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years.
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Sixtysan#6617 wrote:
For everyone who is praising this amalgamation of whatever that is.

Do you know this game live and die by GaaS?

Are you willing to part your way with everything you achieved and start again?

Are you willing to return every three months and go through the campaign again?

Are you willing to create numerous characters every three months?

Are you willing to spend money for stash tabs and supporter packs every three months?

Are you willing to give other players your gear once you are done?

Are you willing to give new players currency or gear, just because?

Are you willing to create builds guides?

Are you willing to create tools, for free, in your spare time?

Are you willing to create Excel sheets and Google Docs, for free, in your spare time?

Are you willing to create webpages that monitor DAILY the state of the game?

Are you willing to create your own wiki?

If even one of the answers is no, then you have no idea what POE is really about.


yes, I have done it in the past and will keep doing it for poe2, you guys are the only ones that think that if poe2 is not the same as poe1 it will fail, YOU didn't do what you wrote at all, you are complaining about something you don't even do, you are the one that has no idea.


There is a differnce between did, will do and willing to do. You can be willing to do stuff, while not being able to do, but if you say you will not be willing, that means you don't care about the topic or want the opposite. That's the basis of the entier political system.
Last edited by Sixtysan#6617 on Dec 10, 2024, 5:29:44 AM
It's not 'Ruthless'

It's not 'Souls-like'.

It was made for people who enjoyed D2, early PoE 1 progression and dislike epilepsy.
When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
There's an influx of a lot of new players, or players that loved the concept of PoE but disliked the gameplay of it, that this game was made for. And those will support it in the long run.

I dont think it really matters for the longevity of the game that a few PoE 1 veterans dislike it honestly.
Seems like it was made for me. I am not a hardcore player (I have in PoE 1 around 600 hours, much, much less in D4 which is now uninstalled). I love difficulty, I love that you need to make some effort to kill the boss and I just love that drop is not overflowing from the screen. There are some small things that can be tweaked but at the core, man, that is not a game, that is The Game for me.
This game is made for me. I like Diablo 2, Souls-like games, and challenges in game. Path of Exile 2 is great! Every boss, every fight is great. Cant wait for workday finish, when i can return to PoE2!

Thank you, devteam!
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morbo#1824 wrote:
It's not 'Ruthless'

It's not 'Souls-like'.

It was made for people who enjoyed D2, early PoE 1 progression and dislike epilepsy.


So it just failed then?

I love D2, I enjoy early PoE 1 progression and I am not a fan of epilepsy (the connotation being the screen-clear-spammy endgame of PoE 1).

I think PoE 2 is the worst ARPG I have ever played. If it didn't piggy-back on the PoE name I would have quit far sooner and gotten my refund on steam. My misguided sense of respect for the PoE devs made me stick with it and hope that it would change after I got deeper into it.
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Sickness#1007 wrote:
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morbo#1824 wrote:
It's not 'Ruthless'

It's not 'Souls-like'.

It was made for people who enjoyed D2, early PoE 1 progression and dislike epilepsy.


So it just failed then?

I love D2, I enjoy early PoE 1 progression and I am not a fan of epilepsy (the connotation being the screen-clear-spammy endgame of PoE 1).

I think PoE 2 is the worst ARPG I have ever played. If it didn't piggy-back on the PoE name I would have quit far sooner and gotten my refund on steam. My misguided sense of respect for the PoE devs made me stick with it and hope that it would change after I got deeper into it.


I think something failing you personally, doesn't mean it failed everyone else. Of course, there are others who feel the same way as you. But you can't just rule out everyone else like that...

Things to really take note of though is:

1. It's not even a week since release of early-access, so it can only improve from here (usually), not get worse.

2. Who was it made for? Well...Me? I came in blind and ended up really enjoying the game, and if numbers are to mean something, it also means many others feel the same way according to steamdb?

3. I'm sorry the game hasn't hit a homerun for you, I can only hope from here they continue to improve and amend things to cater to more players. But for me and from the looks of it, many others, if this is the "worse" state the game will ever be in, then I can't wait for release a year later.
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Who was POE2 made for?


It is me. Nice to meet you!

It's not hardcore, lol.

It's just less 'braindead repetitive 200 maps per minute with exceptionally strict loot-filter' fest and nothing else

Why so many whiners?
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'POE2' is not 'POE1 2.0'! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3614313

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