Who was POE2 made for?

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Jayserix#4932 wrote:

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KuroSF#6521 wrote:

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POE1 proves that very very few people actually enjoy ruthless, certainly not enough to keep you guys in business.

POE1 proves that very few people play POE1.

From Steamcharts:

POE2 - 233k playing now - 498k 24hr peak - 578k all time

POE1 - 228k all time peak

...and every POE2 player *paid*.


It may be hard to accept but POE2 is closer to the game players actually want.

Recency bias
Hype train
FOMO

There is a reason D4 sold 25M copies and is a ghost town now ...

People never learn... they believe in the hype and they completely ignore the massive flaws of these "git gud" games that actively try to make the game less fun and more of a chore because the streamers tell them "it's perfect" and 6 months later the game is as you said "a ghost town"...

PoE2 has ZERO replay-ability and it's a total painful chore... if it stays this way this game will be dead in a year at best...

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KuroSF#6521 wrote:

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Recency bias
Hype train
FOMO

There is a reason D4 sold 25M copies and is a ghost town now ...

D4 made $700M since launch. POE1 made $83M in 2023.

GGG wants and *deserves* more of this lucrative mainstream audience.

me and my whole guild dont even play poe 1 on steam almost no top players do it updates slower etc SO steam charts is by far a noob trap

It was made for me.
I love it, and the slower, more deliberate gameplay. The need to think and play the game from it's start, including geraing up for bosses, learnign patterns, and using all you have.

It need more flexibility and more skill options (partialy done with less conection of skills to weapons) but it's great otherwise.

Ruthless players, SSF players, People that will play campaign once and never touch it again, Elden Ring players.


Every person I know that has played and repeatably plays poe 1 has quit. they find it slow, Tedious, Amazing looking but not that fun.


The game lacks Build depth, Crafting, any sort of flow through campaign, Movement skills. It feels like my character is a 5 month old infant crawling to the next mob. DOnt worry the maps are big enough to be europe.

You can like different things, you know. I play PoE 1 a lot, yet I don't have an issue with PoE 2 and enjoy it for what it is.

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Bakubylozajete#1182 wrote:

It was made for me.
I love it, and the slower, more deliberate gameplay. The need to think and play the game from it's start, including geraing up for bosses, learnign patterns, and using all you have.

It need more flexibility and more skill options (partialy done with less conection of skills to weapons) but it's great otherwise.

"you need to think"... hahaha... sure buddy... suuuuure

Keep telling yourself that... no you don't need to think about jack shit... my build absolutely trashes mobs and bosses and I don't need to think about anything...

The game is stupidly easy if you make a stupidly streamlined and obvious build but it's also extremely boring, whenever you make a single mistake it punishes you by wasting your time and making you redo the unchallenging bullshit that give no loot or any meaningful reward at all ever...

The game is completely void of any sense of reward for your gameplay time... sorry but I play looters for the excitement of getting good loot... this game doesn't have any...

you're just another victim of the whole hype of "this is a challenging game... not like PoE1"... newsflash... PoE1 was much MUCH harder... because in PoE1 you could really fuck up your build and mess up... in this if you take every extremely obvious choice and get a couple of rare weapons and armor the game is stupidly easy and uninteresting because you don't have to think at all... just ALWAYS pick the obvious choice...

It's so funny that newcomers think this is an "interesting thinking game" while PoE1 was "dumb button mashing"... shows you extreme lack of video game understanding...

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KuroSF#6521 wrote:

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POE1 proves that very very few people actually enjoy ruthless, certainly not enough to keep you guys in business.

POE1 proves that very few people play POE1.

From Steamcharts:

POE2 - 233k playing now - 498k 24hr peak - 578k all time

POE1 - 228k all time peak

...and every POE2 player *paid*.


It may be hard to accept but POE2 is closer to the game more players want.

maybe they just attract by an new game and will fly away now or then
some same circumstance Last Epoch has been faced

PoE2 was made for manchild dad whom got traumatized by PoE1. They couldn't made a build, they couldn't equip a gem, they couldn't get pass the shore. They couldn't graps a single thing in this game.

So they made PoE2 so manchild won't have to make a build, chose a gem, chose what stuff to pick. There's no fun, no loot, no speed, no killing. So they can't do anything wrong. PoE2 is a bowling game where there is only the place for 1 pin and 1 bowling ball, you can only shoot straight and cannot miss.

I am having so much laugh reading the forums full of "use dodge" "I beat act1 boss so far don't see what you are talking about". This entire launch made me against freedom of speech.

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epiphase#4568 wrote:

PoE2 was made for manchild dad whom got traumatized by PoE1. They couldn't made a build, they couldn't equip a gem, they couldn't get pass the shore. They couldn't graps a single thing in this game.

So they made PoE2 so manchild won't have to make a build, chose a gem, chose what stuff to pick. There's no fun, no loot, no speed, no killing. So they can't do anything wrong. PoE2 is a bowling game where there is only the place for 1 pin and 1 bowling ball, you can only shoot straight and cannot miss.

I am having so much laugh reading the forums full of "use dodge" "I beat act1 boss so far don't see what you are talking about". This entire launch made me against freedom of speech.

uhm.. delusional. path of exile 1 is still free and playable. why make the same game twice?

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KuroSF#6521 wrote:

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POE1 proves that very very few people actually enjoy ruthless, certainly not enough to keep you guys in business.

POE1 proves that very few people play POE1.

From Steamcharts:

POE2 - 233k playing now - 498k 24hr peak - 578k all time

POE1 - 228k all time peak

...and every POE2 player *paid*.


It may be hard to accept but POE2 is closer to the game more players want.

Honestly why do we have to share the world with people that idiotic? Why do we let this guy breath? He's so freaking idiotic he can't even see obvious logic.