You Removed the Main Reason People Play ARPGs For. And it's a shame.

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Mmmtastyy#6154 wrote:

I played D2 with Median XL mod as well...

D4 and PoE2 are not even in the same universe as these games.

The point is these games were dumbed down, PoE2 gets big numbers now but just it'll die off... no one who enjoyed PoE1 actually enjoys PoE2.. cmon lets be real
look at the currency tab in PoE2

Amen.

Become a vlogger and content creator so you would get more loot. Have a channel in twitch, facebook and youtube and show them their game.

These are required so you can have more loot in your game.

mainstream? since when was a soulslike arpg mainstream? the game mechanic is dumbed down YES. but is that a bad thing? the entire existence of jewellers, fusings and chromatic orbs in poe1 served NO PURPOSE except to force players an unnecessary tedium in order to "play the game properly". thats just one example of unnecessary tedium.

simplified is a better word. is it that bad that the game is simplified? are you aware that the best way for a new player to enjoy poe1 is to use a build guide? lets be real, how many top players in POE know all poe game mechanics? do you know how to calculate how much armor reduces physical hits? do you know how evasion actually works with its entropy system and diminishing returns? do you know the many nuances of all the leech related terms?

MAYBE you do. but MOST of us dont. stop talking as tho everyone who loves poe1 is a genius. look at no rest for the wicked. is that game mainstream? its practically poe2 but grossly simplified and without a stamina bar. that game is NOT mainstream. soulslike is not mainstream. thus even there you're wrong.

i ll be real with you. if a tiktoker can play poe2 which is a dumbed down game better than you, i have more respect to the tiktoker.

poe1 is more gearcheck than skill. poe2 needs both skill checks and skill.

we can see GGG throwing the nerfhammer down early to curb any overperforming/bugged skills.

in poe1 all you need to do is literally stand and spam skills and kill the bosses in seconds.

I never played d2 as kid, bought it in a bundle like 3 years ago, that sh.it is boring as hell. I gave up in act 2. Drop your nostalgia glasses. There was no loot to pick up either, same as in poe1. You leave it on the ground without even looking. Having stuff drop just for the sake of it is stupid design. Im glad poe2 is different in that regard.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

I never played d2 as kid, bought it in a bundle like 3 years ago, that sh.it is boring as hell. I gave up in act 2. Drop your nostalgia glasses. There was no loot to pick up either, same as in poe1. You leave it on the ground without even looking. Having stuff drop just for the sake of it is stupid design. Im glad poe2 is different in that regard.

fish brain logic. The reason D2 had such a wide pool is to offset the power gains and distribute them across all the available classes. You can actually get some insane gear for a zealadin while playing a whirlwind barb. Or a summoner charm while on a druid.

D2 is the OG. Not PoE and it's for this reason. The more GGG deviates from D2 design the worse PoE will be. I'm just telling you how it is. Look at all the similar ARPGs and how poorly they follow the D2 model (including D4) and how they are roundly disliked.

I know D4 has more players than PoE 1. That's just because most people don't know PoE 1 is the spiritual successor to D2 not D3/4.

not nostalgia

I played D2 then the mod then after i found PoE i couldnt' go back to D2, because it's just too dated.

Anyway my first attempt at PoE failed because it was too complex lol.. i tried later on and go to like level 74 with a cyclone warrior then couldn't progress any further. didnt' know about maxxing res, didn't know about damage only thought that base damage mattered, didn't know how to use trading properly

Then I tried sanctum league and did some reading about how you need maxing res, which stats matter and all that and went 40/40 and level 100 and it was the sickest league everrrrr. I sold brass domes to get rich I'd buy off high armor brass domes and 6L them and re-sell them. I'd run heist to start and sell stacked decks and at the end I was running 8mod yellow juice maps for scarabs.

i did everything and it was sick.

fyi i also played new world (i think it's dead) LOL... and i love it.. don't tell me what slow pace is

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TheBobRoss#4429 wrote:

I highly disagree that we need loot showers, but we desperately do need currency to craft and that is sorely insufficient. POE 1 was a game that literally gained its player base by offering currency that had meaning and shaped the game. It redefined the genre.

And it is very odd they removed themselves from it. Crafting is super fun and you should give as many opportunities to craft as possible. If anything POE 1 didn't give ENOUGH opportunity to craft as it should have.

100% Games should not exist to feed some people's slot machine addiction. The loot maybe can be a bit better but definitely not to the extend of POE1 spam.

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Izrakhan#0832 wrote:

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

I never played d2 as kid, bought it in a bundle like 3 years ago, that sh.it is boring as hell. I gave up in act 2. Drop your nostalgia glasses. There was no loot to pick up either, same as in poe1. You leave it on the ground without even looking. Having stuff drop just for the sake of it is stupid design. Im glad poe2 is different in that regard.

fish brain logic. The reason D2 had such a wide pool is to offset the power gains and distribute them across all the available classes. You can actually get some insane gear for a zealadin while playing a whirlwind barb. Or a summoner charm while on a druid.

D2 is the OG. Not PoE and it's for this reason. The more GGG deviates from D2 design the worse PoE will be. I'm just telling you how it is. Look at all the similar ARPGs and how poorly they follow the D2 model (including D4) and how they are roundly disliked.

I know D4 has more players than PoE 1. That's just because most people don't know PoE 1 is the spiritual successor to D2 not D3/4.

Doesnt matter what og is, boring is boring. When i play certain character i want mostly gear for that character. D3 unironicly has the best loot system. The problem are sets but thats different story. D2 model just sucks. Its bland, boring and is outdated AF.

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exsea#1724 wrote:

how many top players in POE know all poe game mechanics? do you know how to calculate how much armor reduces physical hits? do you know how evasion actually works with its entropy system and diminishing returns? do you know the many nuances of all the leech related terms?

That's the beauty of Path of Exile. Even after 10 years of playing, you don't get bored because there's still so much you don't know. There's always something to learn and try out. Many things have to be figured out empirically because there's simply no official, reliable information available. What will you do in the endgame of PoE 2? There's literally nothing to do there. It's an empty shell, like any Souls-like game that hides the lack of content behind artificially inflated difficulty and mechanical dodge-roll spam.

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bachgaman#6713 wrote:

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exsea#1724 wrote:

how many top players in POE know all poe game mechanics? do you know how to calculate how much armor reduces physical hits? do you know how evasion actually works with its entropy system and diminishing returns? do you know the many nuances of all the leech related terms?

That's the beauty of Path of Exile. Even after 10 years of playing, you don't get bored because there's still so much you don't know. There's always something to learn and try out. Many things have to be figured out empirically because there's simply no official, reliable information available. What will you do in the endgame of PoE 2? There's literally nothing to do there. It's an empty shell, like any Souls-like game that hides the lack of content behind artificially inflated difficulty and mechanical dodge-roll spam.

Ah, another day, another dodge roll post by the bach man.

Got 99 posts and dodge roll is in all of em.