You Removed the Main Reason People Play ARPGs For. And it's a shame.

First off, yes. I know. The game is in early access (fancy word for Beta). So what we experience now will most likely be very different 6 months from now.

But there is something that worries me about this game, and it is the exact same thing that KILLED both D3 and D4.

Absolutely D*gshit itemization.

Don't get me wrong. The core of the game is ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!

The visuals, music, sounds, stunning graphics and art direction, the complexity of the fights, etc. I had an ABSOLUTE freakin blast for the first 10 hours. But now? I don't feel like logging in anymore. The game lacks POE 1's depth and godly itemization.

I have a question for you GGG:

Why do you think POE 1 has been INCREASING in popularity for the past 10 years? Was it because of the gameplay and the firework visuals?

No.

POE 1 gameplay is extremely clunky and often times very frustrating.

But what made up for its lack of cool graphics or gameplay was the LOOT AND CRAFTING system. More and more people were playing your 10 year old game because it is a giant slot machine!! ARPGs are fun to play because of the dopamine hits you get by fighting hard mobs and getting rewarded (loot showers!!!) for your efforts.

I can't believe we went from "way too much loot" and needing loot filters (which added complexity and depth to the game imo!), to absolutely no freakin loot at all.

Again. I know, we're in BETA. But what worries me, is my feeling that GGG took the same route Blizzard took with Diablo and dumbed it down beyond belief to appeal to the masses.

Unfortunately, I have the same feeling I got in 2012 after playing D3 for a few days. Great gameplay. Shallow game.

In it's current state, this game was NOT created for poe 1 players, which will be leaving in droves in a few weeks if nothing changes to play the next poe 1 league.

I know POE 1 was way too complicated to go "mainstream". But GGG needs to find a middle ground so there is a reason for us POE 1 players to play.

I don't see how this game will have an ENDGAME with such disastrous itemization. An ARPG's endgame has always been revolving around itemization and the grind to find more and better loot.

After over 10 years upgrading and keeping alive the best ARPG on the market, you'd think that GGG would know this.

I can't believe I'm saying this about a POE game, but guys... Please fix your itemization, fast, before it is too late. The game has massive, massive, massive potential. But we need to find stuff for killing stuff for it to be fun. That's all.

I highly disagree that we need loot showers, but we desperately do need currency to craft and that is sorely insufficient. POE 1 was a game that literally gained its player base by offering currency that had meaning and shaped the game. It redefined the genre.

And it is very odd they removed themselves from it. Crafting is super fun and you should give as many opportunities to craft as possible. If anything POE 1 didn't give ENOUGH opportunity to craft as it should have.

The prices in shops should be adjusted, I also believe that removal of alt orbs was a mistake. We dont need tons of items droping everywhere. You dont need to think about sockets, there is less varience where it comes to type since there is no influence etc. I see vendors as valid option to get decent enough gear.

Not so sure I'm ever going to see what the next 6 months looks since I can't log in and I sure as shti am not going to pay a 2nd time when I'm pretty certain this will happen again, not going to go past the 'fool me once shame on you' routine.

Sorry but I agree - the loot showers are a cheap and quick dopamine hit that was one of the key selling points of ARPGs. Plenty of rares to sift from, and the odd unique dropping is what really separated things.

PoE2 is D4

PoE1 is D2

It sold well tho, anyway it's all style no substance...

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Mmmtastyy#6154 wrote:

PoE2 is D4

PoE1 is D2

i think u got it the other way round.

d2 is much more slower and usually u get shit drops.

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exsea#1724 wrote:

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Mmmtastyy#6154 wrote:

PoE2 is D4

PoE1 is D2

i think u got it the other way round.

d2 is much more slower and usually u get shit drops.

This...

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exsea#1724 wrote:

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Mmmtastyy#6154 wrote:

PoE2 is D4

PoE1 is D2

i think u got it the other way round.

d2 is much more slower and usually u get shit drops.

D2 was a brutal sandbox with plenty of things to loot and do. So is poe 1.

The problem with POE 2 is not just the rarity of the drops, it's also that the friggin loot tables are EMPTY. We went from dozens upon dozens of various crafting currency items.... To what's in the game right now.

Poe 2 is Definitely like D4, and it is the result of a company wanting to make more money with a more mainstream game, by dumbing it down to appeal to the Tik Tok generation, which has the attention span of a goldfish. Prove me wrong.

I played D2 with Median XL mod as well...

D4 and PoE2 are not even in the same universe as these games.

The point is these games were dumbed down, PoE2 gets big numbers now but just it'll die off... no one who enjoyed PoE1 actually enjoys PoE2.. cmon lets be real
look at the currency tab in PoE2