I am worried that GGG might listen to the whiny "game too difficult :(" crowd

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

What I don't understand is the antagonism towards those who like PoE2.
Apparently we are all tourists and fake fans for liking a game the "supporters" supposed "favourite studio" they are "supporting" brought out.

I don't think that there is widespread antagonism for liking PoE2. Heck for it's "prime" audience I think it's an awesome EA level game and has the makings of a classic ... I don't feel hate coming from anyone for liking the game though.

To the contrary the only time I feel disrespect is when I claim that important improvements can be made to the ONE element that drives me crazy about the game.

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TheKnave69#5275 wrote:

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stalkingjackal#2441 wrote:

If you want your voice to be heard, try to give constructive feedback about the things you like and don't like instead of trying to dismiss the feedback of others.

Amen. Reading the forums lately, it's like a crap flinging contest with little actionable feedback.

In qc, the process is to identify an issue and explain why it's an issue. I've seen some really thoughtful feedback buried under, "you hate the game" stuff. People seem way to angry, on both sides, for what is basically an open beta that's less than a week old.

Yeah that's a huge problem.

A select few on each side are saying any negative feedback is people just hating the game and it not being for them and "they should just play PoE1".

Antagonistic threads like this pop up to try and create chaos.

This is an early access it needs changed.

Levers need pulled and sliders need moved.

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Relationship#0359 wrote:

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TheKnave69#5275 wrote:

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stalkingjackal#2441 wrote:

If you want your voice to be heard, try to give constructive feedback about the things you like and don't like instead of trying to dismiss the feedback of others.

Amen. Reading the forums lately, it's like a crap flinging contest with little actionable feedback.

In qc, the process is to identify an issue and explain why it's an issue. I've seen some really thoughtful feedback buried under, "you hate the game" stuff. People seem way to angry, on both sides, for what is basically an open beta that's less than a week old.

Yeah that's a huge problem.

A select few on each side are saying any negative feedback is people just hating the game and it not being for them and "they should just play PoE1".

Antagonistic threads like this pop up to try and create chaos.

This is an early access it needs changed.

Levers need pulled and sliders need moved.

I agree with your point, but people who expect this to be just another PoE1 should, indeed, just play PoE1 and let this game have its own identity.

all the oldies are scared their game will go and be replaced with this one in their opinion an inferior game they dislike is why ig... also side note its 3am rn and i hear a rooster ckadoodle dooing in a nearby farm like wtf what a demonic ass birb

That sounds a lot like they do care about it not being for PoE 1 players then though, like that was a problem that needed fixing[/quote]

I don’t doubt they care about the loyal fan base they have built, however GGG is no longer the same studio when they first started.

Right now, they are trying to capture the Elden ring and d4 playerbass most likely hoping to transition them over to residual league players, however this change has alienated their core base as this isn’t the Poe we have grown to love it’s something different entirely.
This alone isn’t a bad thing, it’s more of expectations are meeting reality and I think that’s where a lot of the angst is coming from.

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Victini#7730 wrote:

all the oldies are scared their game will go and be replaced with this one in their opinion an inferior game they dislike is why ig... also side note its 3am rn and i hear a rooster ckadoodle dooing in a nearby farm like wtf what a demonic ass birb

Homemade KFC?

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WiryRed Dragon#8792 wrote:

I don’t doubt they care about the loyal fan base they have built, however GGG is no longer the same studio when they first started.

Right now, they are trying to capture the Elden ring and d4 playerbass most likely hoping to transition them over to residual league players, however this change has alienated their core base as this isn’t the Poe we have grown to love it’s something different entirely.
This alone isn’t a bad thing, it’s more of expectations are meeting reality and I think that’s where a lot of the angst is coming from.

Why do PoE veterans act as if both can't coexist, or are mutually exclusive even?

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Why do PoE veterans act as if both can't coexist?

noway lets be friends ^-^

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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WiryRed Dragon#8792 wrote:

I don’t doubt they care about the loyal fan base they have built, however GGG is no longer the same studio when they first started.

Right now, they are trying to capture the Elden ring and d4 playerbass most likely hoping to transition them over to residual league players, however this change has alienated their core base as this isn’t the Poe we have grown to love it’s something different entirely.
This alone isn’t a bad thing, it’s more of expectations are meeting reality and I think that’s where a lot of the angst is coming from.

Why do PoE veterans act as if both can't coexist, or are mutually exclusive even?

You need to realize PoE was supported and enjoyed by players for a number of reasons but it was also special in its own way. Making PoE2 and trying to adjust it a different crowd in a way removes the soul of what made PoE great.

I love PoE2 :) and i love the fact that its slower and harder and u dont get everything handed to u. I have played PoE1 since 2013 and the last 3-4 years i felt like the game was going in the wrong direction. It became way too focus on clearspeed and many mechanics and rewards was way too reliant on having the fastest clearspeed possible which in my opinion kind of ruined the build diversity and made certain builds more or less unplayable and not really viable for endgame content. The balancing in PoE1 was pretty much about scaling the endgame content to fit the dps output of the top performing meta builds instead of balancing those builds which resulted in many builds not being viable anymore. But yeah thats just my honest opinion and i do love the slower and harder pace of PoE2 + the fact that u dont get insane amounts of loot and currency from every single map. If i have to pick one thing i dont think is fair in PoE2 it would be having the first ascendancy tied to a sanctum mechanic since some builds will have a really hard time doing that type of content even when massively overleveled because of how the sanctum mechanic works