PoE 2 Is For Tourists

+1 OP

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MEITTI#3999 wrote:

Don't worry, as the meta progresses and more stuff gets unlocked your streamers will give build guides so you don't have to whine about having to use your brains while playing video games anymore, you'll be back to blasting the game with someone else's build while refusing to learn the actual game just like before.

PoE 2 being more demanding mechanically just goes to show that a lot of PoE 1 players never bothered actually being good at the first game either, they just used someone else's build to essentially skip the game. Feedback of those players is essentially worthless because they genuinely don't know what they're talking about because they refuse to actually play the game.

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Ferablekeft#0586 wrote:

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MEITTI#3999 wrote:

Don't worry, as the meta progresses and more stuff gets unlocked your streamers will give build guides so you don't have to whine about having to use your brains while playing video games anymore, you'll be back to blasting the game with someone else's build while refusing to learn the actual game just like before.

PoE 2 being more demanding mechanically just goes to show that a lot of PoE 1 players never bothered actually being good at the first game either, they just used someone else's build to essentially skip the game. Feedback of those players is essentially worthless because they genuinely don't know what they're talking about because they refuse to actually play the game.

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+2. Almost word for word what I said in a different thread.

I love when PoE newbies are calling people "tourists" while at the same time the very same tourists who came here some time ago moaning about the game being too difficult changed the game to what it is now... :DD

Tourists like you were a reason why PoE1 looks how it looks today - a boring, easy slop for average Joe who can't be bothered to pay attention.
You calling us tourists and thinking that you're the "core" PoE player is just insulting. YOU are the tourist that thinks that you now live in Venice.

Joined in 2021, give me a fucking break.

You can always try ruthless SSF HC before you complain - thats indeed a challenge.

The OP encompasses everything that is wrong with ARPGs and all what POE2 and GGG wanted to fix in ARPG genre.

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Everything is too slow. It's not respectful to the player's time.

It is meaningful, so it is more respectful to the player's time. No respect is when all that the game offers is mindlessly clearing content.

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Loot doesn't exist. I dropped one unique in 30 hours.

Luck issue. I got dropped 5 uniques, but neither for my build. Welp, happens.

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Respec is still prohibitively expensive and would require hours and hours of grinding to fully accomplish.

Agree on this one!

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Crafting doesn't exist. YOLO Slamming is the only method of crafting that exists outside of a tiny pool of very rare essences that can still be bricked by subsequent yolo crafts.

Kinda agree on this one, but I am sure there will be more later on. On the other hand I don't want a game where I can craft everything exactly I want, the randomness is the fun and there's point to mobs dropping items.

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The vast majority of my deaths over 30 hours were getting frustrated and walking too far forward and getting pinned to a wall by enemies.

Sorry, but, skill issue.

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Bosses are cool, but unrewarding to farm past the first win.

I always wonder with the ARPG kind of players like you represent... Farming. This is inherently negative word. Playing the game is not about farming. It is about having a challenging gameplay. The holy grail is so that player never feels like they are farming. You can get this only if you have meaningful, unique gameplay encounters. The minute I feel like I am farming the game's over for me.

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Support gems are dropped far too sparsely.

Luck issue or skill issue. I have tons after playing 20 hours. Like right now, I have like 3 sparse that I am not sure what I should use on. No issues going through content, still.

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Jeweler's orbs are far too rare.

Got just one after 20hrs, welp, whatever, I will play with what I have.

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I think I dropped like 5 alcs in 30 hours.

Same for me. Whatever. I will play with what I have. I will use other orbs and vendors to craft what I can.

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If you decide to change your character you are screwed.

I have multiple uniques and rares in the stash, waiting for the next playthrough. Don't agree. Having a shared stash and no bound items makes changing a character easy.

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Nobody wants to grind levels just to get through the acts.

Oh, but it is great to farm one same boss 50 times to get that unique drop, right?

Maybe polarizing the gaming community was their plan all along ...

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Perq#4049 wrote:

I love when PoE newbies are calling people "tourists" while at the same time the very same tourists who came here some time ago moaning about the game being too difficult changed the game to what it is now... :DD

Tourists like you were a reason why PoE1 looks how it looks today - a boring, easy slop for average Joe who can't be bothered to pay attention.
You calling us tourists and thinking that you're the "core" PoE player is just insulting. YOU are the tourist that thinks that you now live in Venice.

Joined in 2021, give me a fucking break.

Nice Ruthless characters. oh.. my bad... just as much of an average Joe as everyone else.

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Ironhide75#7617 wrote:

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Perq#4049 wrote:

I love when PoE newbies are calling people "tourists" while at the same time the very same tourists who came here some time ago moaning about the game being too difficult changed the game to what it is now... :DD

Tourists like you were a reason why PoE1 looks how it looks today - a boring, easy slop for average Joe who can't be bothered to pay attention.
You calling us tourists and thinking that you're the "core" PoE player is just insulting. YOU are the tourist that thinks that you now live in Venice.

Joined in 2021, give me a fucking break.

Nice Ruthless characters. oh.. my bad... just as much of an average Joe as everyone else.

The internet is full of those : people who take themselves WAY too seriously and dream about their imaginary elite club.

Hilarious

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olorin84#1191 wrote:

"Being disrespectful of players time". +9999

i have lvl 30 witch and lvl 55 ranger played more than 25 hours in weekend and it felt awful. every mob runs faster than me, buggy roll mechanic, all skills feels underperforming, ppl stuck 2 links skills cus of no jew orb drops. There is no loot at all. No Crafting!!!! where is the fucking Bench FFS!!! i hate "the close eyes and exalt slam" VISION. Why some skills espeacially good ones require lvl 52!!!!!!

If u make a really good poe 1 league now there will be no player on poe 2.

=> Having to wait half a year for a new league, because of this game and it's vision is really sad... With no new PoE1 league for several months, we can always abandon GGG for a while and go and taste the concurrence with the imminent arrival of Titan Quest 2.