So. i can not defeat Geonor

its about pattern recognition
this has nothing to do with "gamer skill" or quick reflexes
you tried to overcome the challenge in the way youre used to (grind and build)
those are important no doubt, but now do "the new thing" the game asks of you

observe the moves of the boss AND your own reaction to it
analyse that and adjust accordingly
stop being reactive and start anticipating

the biggest obstacles in that regard are your frustration (understandable, you put in a lot of effort and it didnt pay off) and your bias (thinking its about reaction speed when its really not)
WASD also uses a mouse, it just lets you move with the keyboard instead of clicking. I'm guessing a lot of people are choosing click to move out of familiarity and struggling because of it.
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gmillar#4054 wrote:
WASD also uses a mouse, it just lets you move with the keyboard instead of clicking. I'm guessing a lot of people are choosing click to move out of familiarity and struggling because of it.


Yes, i do in fact use the mouse to move and attack, because i have a hard time focussing on WASD and pressing the skill buttons at the same time
New to PoE...if they are keeping the Boss this hard, they shouldn't level cap the area. That will cause people to quit. I am level 18 and can't get past him. Yes he telegraphs, but as a monk if I'm trying to do any melee damage you can't roll out of the way of his big attack.

I don't have capped resistances, but the gear drops don't really allow you to do much with your gear in Act 1, as far as I can tell. Rare stones to add stats or to make standard or magic items rare are few and far between.

I guess I would like to know if I should be Act 1 Boss spamming for gear to see if I can find better items?
killed him after 6 tries on witch. 3 frost phases too. either your pc is a potato, or like others stated you're doing something wrong.
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Bip24#4853 wrote:
New to PoE...if they are keeping the Boss this hard, they shouldn't level cap the area. That will cause people to quit. I am level 18 and can't get past him. Yes he telegraphs, but as a monk if I'm trying to do any melee damage you can't roll out of the way of his big attack.

I don't have capped resistances, but the gear drops don't really allow you to do much with your gear in Act 1, as far as I can tell. Rare stones to add stats or to make standard or magic items rare are few and far between.

I guess I would like to know if I should be Act 1 Boss spamming for gear to see if I can find better items?


I beat him with my monk at level 17. You might need to look at your build. Invest in Evasion.
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I tried. 3 different characters. about 60 to 70 times now.
i cant. i am not even getting close. In his 2nd phase he oneshots me, and in all my attempts i havent even gotten close to getting him under 80 percent.
i spent the last day just trying to kill him, again and again and again.

Cant do it. as soon as he does his red circle, i am dead. dodge doest go far enough to get out of it.

So, thats sad. i spend 60 euros on a support package, and i am hardlocked into watching the first act until the end, and then thats it.

I know, i know, skill issue, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Wanna bet i am not the only one with that issue? Think the others will spend another dime in a game they cant progress in? Me neither.


Wait a bit, there will be guides soon.
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Soop#0082 wrote:
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Bip24#4853 wrote:
New to PoE...if they are keeping the Boss this hard, they shouldn't level cap the area. That will cause people to quit. I am level 18 and can't get past him. Yes he telegraphs, but as a monk if I'm trying to do any melee damage you can't roll out of the way of his big attack.

I don't have capped resistances, but the gear drops don't really allow you to do much with your gear in Act 1, as far as I can tell. Rare stones to add stats or to make standard or magic items rare are few and far between.

I guess I would like to know if I should be Act 1 Boss spamming for gear to see if I can find better items?


I beat him with my monk at level 17. You might need to look at your build. Invest in Evasion.


Evasion isn't effective against any hits that don't come at you horizontally. Slams/meteor like skills, can't be evaded. I don't think Geonor's red ring can be evaded (AFAIK), he needs armor/life to tank the hit. Evasion only works against projectiles/strikes. Says so when you hover the stat in the UI.
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Drukaris#2806 wrote:
its about pattern recognition
this has nothing to do with "gamer skill" or quick reflexes
you tried to overcome the challenge in the way youre used to (grind and build)
those are important no doubt, but now do "the new thing" the game asks of you

observe the moves of the boss AND your own reaction to it
analyse that and adjust accordingly
stop being reactive and start anticipating

the biggest obstacles in that regard are your frustration (understandable, you put in a lot of effort and it didnt pay off) and your bias (thinking its about reaction speed when its really not)



You do realize that "pattern recognition" is effectively the same as processing speed which colloquially is the same as "quick reactions" ... right?

Depending on the task people can have easily TRIPLE the pattern recognition / processing speed of someone else [Talking about averages in demographics]. Having an extra 1/3 of a second may not sound like much but that's a huge difference to those that either just barely succeed or just barely fail often enough to be frustrating.

I went in vs Geonor at level and the fight was so fast I didn't even see his main mechanic.

I wonder if some people are even trying to gear to beat the current act? Like most others I barely saw good drops, but just by using gold/currency/gems/runes I was able to put something half-functional together. Currency is meant to be spent...

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