Feels like a scumbag moment from GGG

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bauermayers#4660 wrote:

Players didn't ask for anything. They just repeated the same model from when the original game was in closed beta, simple as that.

They did ask, there were many posts here and on reddit hoping we will be able to get into EA and it wont be just for streamers.

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yodasdad#2505 wrote:

I think a large part of the distaste for GGG here is the fact that it's massively advertised as a F2P game, across its social media, on youtube, on steam, etc. when in reality the game is locked behind a $30+ purchase for up to a year, likely more.

They advertise as F2P, which obviously attracts attention, while charging players to play. They could've easily had it release now as F2P, and make money from their insanely expensive cosmetics, but they want to rake in that $$$ from early access keys.

If any big name company did something like this you'd all be losing your minds. Fact.

So people are just to stupid to understand what EA is. Pal World, Helldivers 2 or Enshrouded proved that people do not have any problem with eearly access games. This is not headstart like Blizz or Bethesda try to pull of sometimes. This is literally buying a privilige to test the game for the devs. They have earned enough trust and good faith so they are free to do it. They also dont try to pull off any shady crap like p2w, fully funtional item shop in pvp game like others.

From my understanding, we get access to like 33% of the playable characters? 1/3rd. This is quite literally just paid privilege access to BETA TESTING.

The game will be free on release AND nothing you do in the beta will carry over to the relevant seasonal releases.

Also this is EXACTLY how we did the beta back in PoE 1 also. Also you get the points etc as if you were just buying MTX.

That was a real brain damage take m8.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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bauermayers#4660 wrote:

Players didn't ask for anything. They just repeated the same model from when the original game was in closed beta, simple as that.

They did ask, there were many posts here and on reddit hoping we will be able to get into EA and it wont be just for streamers.

Again, they were going to do it anyway, because that's what they did back in the day with POE.

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bauermayers#4660 wrote:

Again, they were going to do it anyway, because that's what they did back in the day with POE.

Doesnt change the fact that players were hoping for this. It not mutually exclusive you know.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

You are NOT paying for the game. You are paying for the right to test the game and get an equal amount of points in return.

I seriously don't understand the big deal here. It's pretty common in today's market to charge for early access. I also don't understand why it's worse for a future F2P to do so. And just to mention: PoE 2 isn't a F2P game. It WILL be a F2P game when it releases.

Paid early access doesn’t make sense for free-to-play games, regardless of their current state. Charging for early access works within the pay-to-play model, where developers can borrow revenue from future sales. But in a game meant to be free-to-play, those future sales doesn't exist.

Most players will have already bought the game on December 6, experiencing it well before the free-to-play version ever launches, which effectively renders the "free" version obsolete. This creates a not-so-clever marketing tactic that essentially replaces the free version with a paid version, making the original free-to-play promise feel irrelevant and dishonest.

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ShamelessWhiteknight#7976 wrote:

Paid early access doesn’t make sense for free-to-play games, regardless of their current state.

Why? Because you said so? Its not how it works.

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ShamelessWhiteknight#7976 wrote:

But in a game meant to be free-to-play, those future sales doesn't exist.

Not relevant.

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ShamelessWhiteknight#7976 wrote:

Most players will have already bought the game on December 6, experiencing it well before the free-to-play version ever launches, which effectively renders the "free" version obsolete. This creates a not-so-clever marketing tactic that essentially replaces the free version with a paid version, making the original free-to-play promise feel irrelevant and dishonest.

Speculations and opinions are not facts. They are very open in what they are selling currently, they are not responsible for stupidity of those that do not understand. If somebody deosnt understand what EA is than thats not him.

It's interesting how most of the complainers regarding this small price tag (for a beta test), are the players who appear to have barely (or never?) supported GGG at all.

Do you think Free-To-Play means the games just magically appears without support & funding? It seems like an incredibly spoiled and naive complaint towards a beta test, when the actual game will still be free.

They just cry because others will have a chance to play and they wont.

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Fraktal_#5973 wrote:

So a Free game is going to get sold for $30. Probably sell 1 million+ copies just for the EA and this will basically just be the game release and they will rake in the dough as if it a paid game This reeks of scumbaggery.

Game: is free
Company: makes millions selling copies of the game for $30
GGG: ;)

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Just wait for the full release, it will be free.