I already lost 50 portals to maven.

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Echothesis wrote:
He seems to be playing boneshatter with blood rage, so actual dps is 0 if he touches the beam :)


The worst part is to farm all the way here to just know you can't play agains't the boss if you make any movement mistake, and will still limit the ammount of the build viable for a late game content,

It was one of the most baseless and thoughtless mechanics I've ever seen in all my years playing, i played a lot of hardcore games and this is the only one i met that which randomly introduces a rule that makes some ways of playing unfeasible, practically a person who plays righteous fire cannot even enter quickly as they will die instantly, it is as if they made a boss and the boss cannot take damage from projectiles, this it would completely kill the game's ranged builds.



And a game that promotes itself by saying that it has a wide variety of builds and ways of playing is the game that punishes the most for playing differently.

No money until, GGG fix melee.
uhh... where's your flame dash? are you trying to do pinnacles with leap slam?
"buff grenades"

- Buff Grenades (Buff-Grenades)
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auspexa wrote:
uhh... where's your flame dash? are you trying to do pinnacles with leap slam?


Yeah, i tought all skills are supposed to be good, i was wrong.

A skill that jump above things somehow still gets hit, i will just change it. good call.
No money until, GGG fix melee.
All skills are good, but at different things. If you want to move though a map quickly then high AS leap slam is great. To pass by degen beams, not so much. This is the kind of game where your choices have consequences.
Yeeeah this is why I don't do maven, I hate the memory phase. I just buy a voidstone carry for her and uber elder at the start of every league then don't touch those bosses again. Sure I killed Uber Maven with 200 mil dps, even skipped a lot of mechanics and only got the first easy 3-step memory game but if you need that much damage to kill it easily that's pretty bad.
This is one of the bad sides of PoE that had actually a decent solution at one point.


Back in the days, Shaper visited maps and harassed players. It served as a good info about Shaper's attack patterss
- beam
- adds
- slam


Same stuff was released with Sirius
- ground fissures
- double beam xplosion
- Die beam


For maven? The mechanics in the fight are not related mostly to the attack patters at witnessed monsters. Silly memory game is nowhere but at her. Trails are only at her.
For the new Exarch and the other guy, you at least have the campaign easy modes.

What's left is youtube guides where you have to study the fights as each "attempt" is stupid economic loss.
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HunterDIII wrote:
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auspexa wrote:
uhh... where's your flame dash? are you trying to do pinnacles with leap slam?


Yeah, i tought all skills are supposed to be good, i was wrong.

A skill that jump above things somehow still gets hit, i will just change it. good call.


dont change it, you need both tbh
"buff grenades"

- Buff Grenades (Buff-Grenades)
Yeah, i don't see the point of making her fight with that ammount of things, it just make it boring, it just makes to get my voidstone and never fight her again.

every time i get a exarch and EOW keys i juicy they up and fight it again, if i have to keep moving its okay because i don't get punched in the face for doing so.

Every boss is suposed to have some teaching behind it.

I learned in exarch to move better.

EOW i learned that i need to think fast to survive.

Elder fight is boring, there is nothing to learn there, one of the worst designed fights i'ver seen

Shaper fight showed that i had low damage i needed more dps, (600k dps, upgraded it to 4M) make me to set the map debuffs, and to act fast when he do the slam attack.

Sirus fight is one of the best fights in the game but the arena is really, really dark, i don't know even how people get to beat him, is too much dark.

Maven fight i learned that i can't play it with my build cause any mistake i make is a insta death, if i make any small mistake, i can't hit, can't heal,

its full of fancy stuff, that looks all the same, just balls floating everywhere, i don't searched the fight anywhere, it was the most discusting experience i'had in all my years of ARPG and i played a lot of then, the memory game is cool, but the rest of fight is really bad designed.
No money until, GGG fix melee.
The no regen rebuff feels pretty unfair - but if you practice enough times you realize there’s very little going on in the fight during that phase. No new degen balls, no brain lasers. All you really have to do is get good enough at controlling your character to not touch the beams while you dps her.

I cleared like 10 writs already this league on a tanky SSF character with a realistic peak dps of maybe 5-6 million in that fight. It just takes practice - and writs are easy to farm if you run the destructive play atlas set up.
"Cheese" lol you can do Maven with any decent build as long as you know the mechs. I beat her every league pretty early on less than 5 div budget. If you learn the mechs which aren't really even hard she's one of the easiest bosses in the game.

Idk how people ever fail the memory game, you just count for a couple sec??? But even if you do fail it, you should have 5 portals left. Maybe you make an oopsie - 4 portals left. Died to a cascade of pain? Even then you should have 3. If you are losing 6 portals on the last phase, you either never bothered to open a YT video or your build is just way too weak for Maven.

It's fine to be a new player/inexperienced, maybe you don't know the mechs or how to build a decent character (and for some reason refuse to follow a build guide too). That's fine - ask for advice, read a guide.

But to start yelling on the forums that the only way to beat Maven is by "cheesing it" ("cheesing" = building a decent char with more than 10k dps and 1k HP it seems)...that just makes your post look ridiculous. 4%? Most people who've played POE for a couple leagues have beaten her.

You don't need mirrors to farm Maven. You can "cheese" it on 50c builds or just beat her normally on a 2-3 div build. The only thing Maven (and any other content in this game) requires is knowledge. I understand that not everyone wants to put in the effort to learn it, but then why complain?? It's as accessible to you as it is to anyone else. You don't need to play 8hrs a day or farm magebloods. You don't even need to know how to build a character - just follow a build guide and watch a YT video. Swap a flask or a gem. Change your pantheon. Learn to adapt tp the content a bit.

Fully agree with Marxone though, we should have more (non-taxing) means to practice boss mechs in this game.
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