Boss reset on death in PoE2 will be a deal breaker IMO

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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exsea wrote:

if bosses have bullet hell phases, memory games, permanent area denial (such as permanent degen pools), requiring split second dodging... i think i m out.

100% it will bro, 100% guaranteed. Boss shenanigans is GGG's signature game design.

i think so too.

if i were to give GGG the benefit of doubt, undecember's bosses are what i think poe2 is set out to do.

theyre more or less balanced mechanically. not too much BS.

a big issue is melee would normally have a hard time dealing with bosses due to non melee being able to do more constant damage due to kiting.

regardless i know i m not a god gamer. i m a scrub.

if the bosses are too punishing, i simply would rage quit and never play the game again (since i have other games that i could play)

one thing a lot of poe2 anticipators keep defending, is that it wont be slow. they keep bringing up that the gameplay was slowed down intentionally for exilecon.

what they dont realize is that means bosses would be harder. they attack faster, you're expected to react faster.

i think it could be exciting. but we're still far away from poe2. i have a lot of skepticism

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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exsea wrote:

if bosses have bullet hell phases, memory games, permanent area denial (such as permanent degen pools), requiring split second dodging... i think i m out.

100% it will bro, 100% guaranteed. Boss shenanigans is GGG's signature game design.

Lazers with balls. Just lazers and balls everywhere.

LoL this topic I find funny as the main way people beat bosses is to cheese them. I thought all the try hards would be happy about it since they keep complaining about how easy PoE bosses are compared to Lilith, well that is till they can't just cheese the bosses anymore.

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AintCare wrote:

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Valkaneer wrote:

LoL this topic I find funny as the main way people beat bosses is to cheese them. I thought all the try hards would be happy about it since they keep complaining about how easy PoE bosses are compared to Lilith, well that is till they can't just cheese the bosses anymore.

they are try hards and try hards man. many ppl here just want more loot and faster, some chase completion... I found few people that would brag about their 40/40 daily on g1 but when asked about their 0/8 they throw some very interesting retorts...

You're talking about challenges from ruthless crucible? The league that literally made a joke out of Ruthless? The one that destroyed the create-a-unique-event? Those challenges?

Also why are you looking for Ruthless challenges in Standard-Challenge-League G1?

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jdp29 wrote:

GGG has admitted, I think, that Brutus is a major roadblock where players quit. Now imagine that instead of being able to bum rush Brutus over and over, players have him reset every time. You really think many people are going to stick around?

if some bosses are too hard, just join a party. the boss shouldn't lose health when party members are around.

it's a multiplayer game after all, although i can understand people having forgotten about that in the last 2 years of power creep where most bosses die on mouseklick.

if the game as it is, is too hard, join a guild. so far, good guilds take 50% off the difficulty of poe because of all the help you get by people sharing stuff.

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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exsea wrote:

if bosses have bullet hell phases, memory games, permanent area denial (such as permanent degen pools), requiring split second dodging... i think i m out.

100% it will bro, 100% guaranteed. Boss shenanigans is GGG's signature game design.

It wasn't before the power creep vastly outstripped their ability to design a boss for it, I'm not saying they will adhere to the old rules but i'd give them a chance.

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AintCare wrote:

but when asked about their 0/8 they throw some very interesting retorts...

Ruthless challenges are absolutely irrelevant to anything other than a very respectable flex to your determination, you can't expect people to do anything associated with such a microcosm of gameplay.

Or put another way, the addition of ruthless challenges hasn't in any way changed how challenges are viewed, i'd still take 40/40 on SSFHC as the pinnacle over even 8/8 ruthless its such a totally different experience it only qualifies you to talk about ruthless.

not a deal breaker im tired of builds going only for pure dmg and skip every single boss mechanic and just kill it instantly this is the best change poe 2 have

Have you tried playing HC?
I don't see where the big deal is
You died - you do not deserve to go further. Repeat or perish

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vio wrote:

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jdp29 wrote:

GGG has admitted, I think, that Brutus is a major roadblock where players quit. Now imagine that instead of being able to bum rush Brutus over and over, players have him reset every time. You really think many people are going to stick around?

if some bosses are too hard, just join a party. the boss shouldn't lose health when party members are around.

it's a multiplayer game after all, although i can understand people having forgotten about that in the last 2 years of power creep where most bosses die on mouseklick.

if the game as it is, is too hard, join a guild. so far, good guilds take 50% off the difficulty of poe because of all the help you get by people sharing stuff.

While some players will gravitate towards a guild or mp, do you really think a majority will? Like, you think that after banging their head against "Brutus" they are going to think, "you know, MP or a guild will fix all my problems with this boss that's right at the start of this F2P game."

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shadowthedead wrote:

Have you tried playing HC?
I don't see where the big deal is
You died - you do not deserve to go further. Repeat or perish

People playing softcore don't want that experience, otherwise they would be playing hardcore.

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shadowthedead wrote:

Have you tried playing HC?
I don't see where the big deal is
You died - you do not deserve to go further. Repeat or perish

People playing softcore don't want that experience, otherwise they would be playing hardcore.[/quote]

What experience they want? Cake walk in the park?