Tried PoE after D4's first beta weekend

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Deadandlivin wrote:

If you prefer theorycrafting and grinding to craete a character that "breaks the game", PoE is better suited for you. That's in essence what PoE is about, creating a build that eventually becomes so powerful that you're an unkillable Aura of death that oneshots everything within 2 screens of your character.

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Lord_Bakaxan wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

If you prefer theorycrafting and grinding to craete a character that "breaks the game", PoE is better suited for you. That's in essence what PoE is about, creating a build that eventually becomes so powerful that you're an unkillable Aura of death that oneshots everything within 2 screens of your character.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

No.

Maybe for some elite 1%.

For most, POE is an exercise in opaque design leading to endless frustration.

POE may be the best ARPG out there. Diablo never did much for me. POE still sucks in many baffling ways.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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Lord_Bakaxan wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

If you prefer theorycrafting and grinding to craete a character that "breaks the game", PoE is better suited for you. That's in essence what PoE is about, creating a build that eventually becomes so powerful that you're an unkillable Aura of death that oneshots everything within 2 screens of your character.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

No.

Maybe for some elite 1%.

For most, POE is an exercise in opaque design leading to endless frustration.

POE may be the best ARPG out there. Diablo never did much for me. POE still sucks in many baffling ways.

This is why majority of PoE players quit the game after a couple of days.
It's a game designed for very elitist players.
Most other players quit the game early or lose interest very quickly because it's too grindy.

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feydh wrote:

Or maybe people lose interest because game isn't interesting.

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Destructodave wrote:

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feydh wrote:

Or maybe people lose interest because game isn't interesting.

The actual gameplay is terrible. Its barely over clicker heroes. It might as well be an AFK mobile game once your build is decent. You just speed through maps, gaining incremental amounts of resources to use in trade.

The main draw of PoE is the "depth" of builds, which honestly get so blown out of proportion by PoE fans its crazy. This basically boils down to some new player ruining their character with all the trap nodes on the tree, generally being too squishy and dying, and maybe then they look a build up and then they get to feel smart and press 1 button to kill entire screens, while vacuuming up tiny amounts of currency until they are blue in the face, and people think they are playing Chess now, mixed with Quake. The gameplay is so easy once you just look a build up its done. Theres no real need for all this crazy depth; your spamming 1 button ad nauseum, map after map, and thats the gameplay. And 100s of builds work for this. Depth is an illusion.

But thats still the actual draw of the game, because if we measure PoE by actual gameplay, it doesnt compare at all even to D3, much less D4. Much less any game. Its the equivalent of Vampire Survivors in gameplay depth. The majority of your time is spent in PoB or wooping tabs in trade, while you play lawnmower afk simulator mowing down mobs that are no more than speed bumps.

There is a reason a "shallow" game like D3 or even D4 can have millions of players while PoE remains with a fraction of that even when its the top dog and thats because the gameplay of those games is top notch, while the gameplay of PoE sucks. Lets just compare running through Act 1 PoE, to Merviel, to D3 and D4's Act 1 beta. Which one actually plays better? Thats why the vast majority of people who try PoE dont even make it to maps, and cant get through the 10 acts campaign. It sucks, thats why.

But I do love PoE, but listening to people wax poetic like they are playing Quake Chess and millions of people just LOOOOVE it is off-putting. But I guess thats what you get on a fan-biased forum.

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Destructodave wrote:

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feydh wrote:

Or maybe people lose interest because game isn't interesting.

The actual gameplay is terrible. Its barely over clicker heroes. It might as well be an AFK mobile game once your build is decent. You just speed through maps, gaining incremental amounts of resources to use in trade.

The main draw of PoE is the "depth" of builds, which honestly get so blown out of proportion by PoE fans its crazy. This basically boils down to some new player ruining their character with all the trap nodes on the tree, generally being too squishy and dying, and maybe then they look a build up and then they get to feel smart and press 1 button to kill entire screens, while vacuuming up tiny amounts of currency until they are blue in the face, and people think they are playing Chess now, mixed with Quake. The gameplay is so easy once you just look a build up its done. Theres no real need for all this crazy depth; your spamming 1 button ad nauseum, map after map, and thats the gameplay. And 100s of builds work for this. Depth is an illusion.

But thats still the actual draw of the game, because if we measure PoE by actual gameplay, it doesnt compare at all even to D3, much less D4. Much less any game. Its the equivalent of Vampire Survivors in gameplay depth. The majority of your time is spent in PoB or wooping tabs in trade, while you play lawnmower afk simulator mowing down mobs that are no more than speed bumps.

There is a reason a "shallow" game like D3 or even D4 can have millions of players while PoE remains with a fraction of that even when its the top dog and thats because the gameplay of those games is top notch, while the gameplay of PoE sucks. Lets just compare running through Act 1 PoE, to Merviel, to D3 and D4's Act 1 beta. Which one actually plays better? Thats why the vast majority of people who try PoE dont even make it to maps, and cant get through the 10 acts campaign. It sucks, thats why.

But I do love PoE, but listening to people wax poetic like they are playing Quake Chess and millions of people just LOOOOVE it is off-putting. But I guess thats what you get on a fan-biased forum.

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Destructodave wrote:

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feydh wrote:

Or maybe people lose interest because game isn't interesting.

The actual gameplay is terrible. Its barely over clicker heroes. It might as well be an AFK mobile game once your build is decent. You just speed through maps, gaining incremental amounts of resources to use in trade.

The main draw of PoE is the "depth" of builds, which honestly get so blown out of proportion by PoE fans its crazy. This basically boils down to some new player ruining their character with all the trap nodes on the tree, generally being too squishy and dying, and maybe then they look a build up and then they get to feel smart and press 1 button to kill entire screens, while vacuuming up tiny amounts of currency until they are blue in the face, and people think they are playing Chess now, mixed with Quake. The gameplay is so easy once you just look a build up its done. Theres no real need for all this crazy depth; your spamming 1 button ad nauseum, map after map, and thats the gameplay. And 100s of builds work for this. Depth is an illusion.

But thats still the actual draw of the game, because if we measure PoE by actual gameplay, it doesnt compare at all even to D3, much less D4. Much less any game. Its the equivalent of Vampire Survivors in gameplay depth. The majority of your time is spent in PoB or wooping tabs in trade, while you play lawnmower afk simulator mowing down mobs that are no more than speed bumps.

There is a reason a "shallow" game like D3 or even D4 can have millions of players while PoE remains with a fraction of that even when its the top dog and thats because the gameplay of those games is top notch, while the gameplay of PoE sucks. Lets just compare running through Act 1 PoE, to Merviel, to D3 and D4's Act 1 beta. Which one actually plays better? Thats why the vast majority of people who try PoE dont even make it to maps, and cant get through the 10 acts campaign. It sucks, thats why.

But I do love PoE, but listening to people wax poetic like they are playing Quake Chess and millions of people just LOOOOVE it is off-putting. But I guess thats what you get on a fan-biased forum.

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Destructodave wrote:

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feydh wrote:

Or maybe people lose interest because game isn't interesting.

The actual gameplay is terrible. Its barely over clicker heroes. It might as well be an AFK mobile game once your build is decent. You just speed through maps, gaining incremental amounts of resources to use in trade.

The main draw of PoE is the "depth" of builds, which honestly get so blown out of proportion by PoE fans its crazy. This basically boils down to some new player ruining their character with all the trap nodes on the tree, generally being too squishy and dying, and maybe then they look a build up and then they get to feel smart and press 1 button to kill entire screens, while vacuuming up tiny amounts of currency until they are blue in the face, and people think they are playing Chess now, mixed with Quake. The gameplay is so easy once you just look a build up its done. Theres no real need for all this crazy depth; your spamming 1 button ad nauseum, map after map, and thats the gameplay. And 100s of builds work for this. Depth is an illusion.

But thats still the actual draw of the game, because if we measure PoE by actual gameplay, it doesnt compare at all even to D3, much less D4. Much less any game. Its the equivalent of Vampire Survivors in gameplay depth. The majority of your time is spent in PoB or wooping tabs in trade, while you play lawnmower afk simulator mowing down mobs that are no more than speed bumps.

There is a reason a "shallow" game like D3 or even D4 can have millions of players while PoE remains with a fraction of that even when its the top dog and thats because the gameplay of those games is top notch, while the gameplay of PoE sucks. Lets just compare running through Act 1 PoE, to Merviel, to D3 and D4's Act 1 beta. Which one actually plays better? Thats why the vast majority of people who try PoE dont even make it to maps, and cant get through the 10 acts campaign. It sucks, thats why.

But I do love PoE, but listening to people wax poetic like they are playing Quake Chess and millions of people just LOOOOVE it is off-putting. But I guess thats what you get on a fan-biased forum.