Just saw the price of that d3 remake.. called d4.. 69 EURO fkn standart edition??
" I think this is an unnecessary hyperbole, and I think both of these terms are being used way too much, just like "hate" and whatever. Maybe it's a woke thing, I don't know. There are other games out there that also limits you to 4 tabs. Hell, there are even games out there with limitations where all of your tabs aren't shared between your characters. Sure, these games probably put as much strain on your inventory as PoE, but you also have no way of increasing your amount of tabs, neither by paying or playing. Mules are a VERY common way to increase your stash space in these games too. But all this comes down to how we view "F2P". If a game charges you nothing to play the game - and you have access to all content, I don't see a problem with heavy encouragement on spending a few bucks (and we are talking about a few bucks here). You're clearly not OK with it, and that's OK. But to go as far as calling it "toxic" and "predatory"? Don't agree with that. Lootboxes, on the other hand... Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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" Predatory in the extent that the core design concept is intentionally developed to extract money out of you. I don't know how you define predatory for games, but when they "hunt" for money like this it checks the box for me. I suppose toxic is a newish, overused word. I could have said player hostile, or anti-player, or whatever else, to convey to same point. Again the inventory management is specifically designed to frustrate to player. Literally that's it, there is no legitimate game reason. It's simply to entice monetization. Not because the player "wants" to do so, but because they are essentially punished if they don't. Sure they could but their game experience suffers. This isn't a gear cosmetic or skill appearance issue. I'm with you and, GGG there. Non-game impact options are great, and typically feel that way when purchased. *side note that making an invisible option cost money also is pretty low. I mean really I have to pay to turn it off? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Mar 13, 2023, 3:10:21 PM
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" The fact is stash tabs give a huge advantage. You can argue both f2p and paying players are playing the same content, but the experience is just worlds apart. Stash tabs are an in between f2p and p2w, not a necessity, but a massive, bought, QoL. Just as a simple comparison, you'd need 3,5 of those 4 free stash tabs to have 5k chaos, while buying just costs you 1 single slot. It is predatory, just as much as limited time MTX that has no reason to be time limited other than FOMO tactics. And Kirac what ever battle pass is just another step into those tactics. From all the MMOs and F2P games i've played, only PoE tries to be deceptive about it. Last edited by Z3RoNightMare#7140 on Mar 13, 2023, 4:16:21 PM
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" F2P doesn't not equal "free". A F2P game can have P2W, doesn't make it any more or less F2P. PoE will always be F2P no matter how much you consider it P2W. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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" And will always be predatory, doesn't matter how much you consider it not selling massive advantages as "QoL". Last edited by Z3RoNightMare#7140 on Mar 13, 2023, 5:24:20 PM
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" Sure, in your eyes, but that's subjective. Calling it "not F2P" is just factually wrong. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Mar 13, 2023, 5:43:18 PM
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" Steve Blum is one of the few Western voice actors I can pick instantly, regardless of role. Zoltan Kulle, Rytlock Brimstone (Guild Wars 2), Starscream (Transformers Prime), the Eldar in Dawn of War... D3, for all its failings, had a very good voice cast. Hell, they even got James Hong aka David Lo Pan for a part and that old fuck is 100% my spirit animal. He is looking DAMN good for a dude in his 90s. Had you told me he would be a central character in a kung fu multiverse movie led by Asians that won almost as many awards as any Oscar baiter even five years ago I would have laughed myself silly. Whereas the writing in D3 never so much as got a titter from me. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.
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" Sure, in your eyes, but that's subjective. Calling it "not predatory" is just factually wrong. |
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According to Chat GPT the itemization of D4 is almost as deep and complex as POE
If this is true then $100 a fine price for this game. Rumor has it that Blizzard copied POE skill system, praise the lord because I don't trust them to make something on their own especially not the "do you not have phones" individual. Look how Awesome my MTX Marauder RF looks
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Since the conversation has, inevitably, cycled back to "Stash tabs are P2W," I will ask again: Which would be preferable? No stash tabs for sale at all, limiting every player to the same storage capacity, OR, the current paradigm, in which functionally sufficient stash tabs are provided free, but more are available as MTXs for those who care to pay?
Expanding on the above, what would you like to see? More free tabs as the default, instead? How many more?* =^[.]^= *The above, of course, doesn't address the fact that stash tab sales probably comprise a majority of PoE's revenues, without which, well, I'll leave that to you to consider. =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/ whiskers =@[.]@= boggled / =>[.]<= annoyed or angry / ='[.]'= concerned / =0[.]o= confuzzled / =-[.]-= sad or sleepy / =*[.]*= dazzled / =^[.]~= wink / =~[.]^= naughty wink / =9[.]9= rolleyes #FourYearLie Last edited by Raycheetah#7060 on Mar 13, 2023, 9:21:06 PM
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