Just saw the price of that d3 remake.. called d4.. 69 EURO fkn standart edition??

so the thread changed from an outrage on how d4 is "expensive" to the usual "it's shit because blizzard is shit"

Classic poe community..

I mean they are bad giving to their past filled with some more unrelated work stuff within the personal office area ;^)

"

TheAshmaker wrote:

Sigh. Watching D4 beta gameplay today just makes me depressed. The game looks so bad. Skills are not flashy, look like they have zero impact, UI is ugly, graphics look weird. Gameplay and story is bland and boring.

Safe to say PoE is safe which is disappointing because this game is also pretty butt cheeks lately and in desperate need for competition.

GL playing poe then.. D4 is fun the least i can say. We aren't seeing much, but right now it seems fun..

The world quests could use some more diversity but it's ok I guess, we haven't seen them all. Also the fact that you feel like it's a multiplayer game, and not a single player simulator with trade is also awsome.

The skills are ok...Better than poe that gives you traumas with how ridiculous and clunky the screen feels with everything on it. Visual clarity in POE is the worst I saw in any game...The game look as flashy as people want, but if you cannot see damn squad on the screen ( not even what kills you) it's pointless. And they just cannot repair that in all the stuff they placed in the game.

We haven't seen crafting at his full potential but seems something like d3 which I personally don't like. Definitely you will not need 3 diplomas to learn how to craft efficient, but I don't expect it to be D3 dumbed down.

The graphics is meh...seems like the graphic from POE 2 trailer...Guess everyone uses the same engine and depends how much you push it to the audience.

The UI is ugly, I give you that...They will probably change it by launch I guess.

You have literally seen 3 movies and you decided the story is bland and boring ? But the fact that you are an exile on an island full of magic and zombies because you committed something is not bland and cheecky, it's just good story writing ? Man what sh@t manga are you reading man ?

But if you say that POE is safe, well who are we to judge...POE has been safe for like years now, Chris even said they don't need a wide audience...So you are safe playing with 10k-15k players and getting leagues at a 3 month pace :))

im kind of lost at some comments ive seen mocking d4's gameplay. because "peak" gameplay for this game for almost the entirety of poe's existence involved running around with a character that was bigger than your screen, killing things you cant even see because your character model is so big.. and then occasionally dying somehow from something offscreen

"

TheAshmaker wrote:

Sigh. Watching D4 beta gameplay today just makes me depressed. The game looks so bad. Skills are not flashy, look like they have zero impact, UI is ugly, graphics look weird. Gameplay and story is bland and boring.

Safe to say PoE is safe which is disappointing because this game is also pretty butt cheeks lately and in desperate need for competition.

Can't judge D4 fairly from a low bit stream. The game looks and feels great when actually playing it yourself with a decent system.

The artwork is amazing, atmosphere dark & eeri, animations are great.

If D4 looks bad, then honestly what does POE look like in comparison(no offence).

Also i can't help to wonder, do people who judge by streams bother to even adjust the resolution? The automatic setting is at 720p (i think) and makes the game look awful.


Then i don't know what you mean by safe? D4 will obviously be more popular than PoE2, does not mean PoE will die and the hardcore (more niche crowd) will likely stay in PoE or play both games(seeing as D4 will actually contain depth with Paragon boards that are not available in the beta).

d4 will be fun for 1 month. after that it will be the same ded trash like d3..

Now that GGG has sold out, lets not compare the price of their supporter cosmetics to actual video games, because even then 70USD for a video game seems incredidbly reasonable if it has online features and has a high production budget.


Honestly, depending on your country even if D4 is only a month or so worth of amusement I can definitely justify the dollar to entertainment value and consider it fair in comparison to any "supporter" premium GGG calculates as fair pricing.

"

wierdzodi wrote:

"

TheAshmaker wrote:

Sigh. Watching D4 beta gameplay today just makes me depressed. The game looks so bad. Skills are not flashy, look like they have zero impact, UI is ugly, graphics look weird. Gameplay and story is bland and boring.

Safe to say PoE is safe which is disappointing because this game is also pretty butt cheeks lately and in desperate need for competition.

Can't judge D4 fairly from a low bit stream. The game looks and feels great when actually playing it yourself with a decent system.

The artwork is amazing, atmosphere dark & eeri, animations are great.

If D4 looks bad, then honestly what does POE look like in comparison(no offence).

Also i can't help to wonder, do people who judge by streams bother to even adjust the resolution? The automatic setting is at 720p (i think) and makes the game look awful.


Then i don't know what you mean by safe? D4 will obviously be more popular than PoE2, does not mean PoE will die and the hardcore (more niche crowd) will likely stay in PoE or play both games(seeing as D4 will actually contain depth with Paragon boards that are not available in the beta).

poe havent fixed loot drops in a decade, not fixed effects so you can see things in a decade.

Then poe fans think their game is great with devs...

go figure.

diablo4 looks great and plays great and be the winner for gamers.
once streamers stream d4 instead of poe2, then poe2 slowly fades away

"

skjutengris wrote:

diablo4 looks great and plays great and be the winner for gamers.
once streamers stream d4 instead of poe2, then poe2 slowly fades away

An interesting notion. If we take something similar, like CoD and Tarkov, there is some overlap in playerbase but they ultimately target a different type of player. So, you usually see a dip in Tarkov playerbase when a new Cod release drops and then it bounces back, for the simple reason that CoD just isn't offering you the same kind of experience. Less hardcore fans check it out for a change of pace and then come back.

It's pretty hard to get into the 'complex arpg' niche if there's already a strong player there, because they will already have a decade of content behind them, which is a part of what makes a game like that complex.
On the other hand, to enter the 'accessible rpg' market you just need a product that looks good, plays well and isn't very complicated, which doesn't require 10 years of development. But that also has a drawback, if another game comes out with stronger visuals and gameplay, you're kinda fucked because they're offering the same thing, only better.

So, PoE should be safe in its niche, but D4 will likely impact more casual arpgs significantly, assuming bliz doesn't drop the ball in some way.

"

yamface wrote:

im kind of lost at some comments ive seen mocking d4's gameplay. because "peak" gameplay for this game for almost the entirety of poe's existence involved running around with a character that was bigger than your screen, killing things you cant even see because your character model is so big.. and then occasionally dying somehow from something offscreen

Isnt that the truth. The worst part of PoE is actually the gameplay. The theory-crafting, economy, building, etc is the fun part. Then the rest your basically a catfish, scouring the floors of maps, running break neck through them like your mowing grass occasionally picking up pennies to trade with later.

The actual minute to minute gameplay of PoE is definitely not one of its strong-suits.