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Zyzurp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAeJf1uU-s
So this is how hc players play poe hc?
Im speechless.....
Battle vs Hunger is absolutly fine. For Black Star he has enougth dmg to abuse loggout and as I see he was doing it intentionally, even when astral avalanche would be 100% blocked. This battle is actually easy, you need only to use pillars and you will be 100% protected vs Black Star most dangerous mechanics.
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Posted byAlendert#6227on Nov 30, 2022, 6:07:07 AM
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Zyzurp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAeJf1uU-s
So this is how hc players play poe hc?
Im speechless.....
It's literally impossible and non-objective to look down on HC players while playing SC
Your argument (if you can call it) would be slightly more valid if you'd kill these bosses in HC
By dying 100 times in campaign and mocking HC players is just..silly
It's always either softcore player complaining about it who either didn't try hardcore or didn't get very far and very rarely hardcore player who choose the most boring playstyle of playing like absolute cowards, never pushing their limits and just doing 100% safe content. If they ever tried it they'd know TCP macro isn't reliable and fails more time than they think, and while Alt+F4/Exit to Login Screen are quite reliable - game has so many situations where logout would either not save you or would kill you instead where you could've survived without logout.
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Posted byDemonikPath#1311on Nov 30, 2022, 6:15:16 AM
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DemonikPath wrote:
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Zyzurp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAeJf1uU-s
So this is how hc players play poe hc?
Im speechless.....
It's literally impossible and non-objective to look down on HC players while playing SC
Your argument (if you can call it) would be slightly more valid if you'd kill these bosses in HC
By dying 100 times in campaign and mocking HC players is just..silly
It's always either softcore player complaining about it who either didn't try hardcore or didn't get very far and very rarely hardcore player who choose the most boring playstyle of playing like absolute cowards, never pushing their limits and just doing 100% safe content. If they ever tried it they'd know TCP macro isn't reliable and fails more time than they think, and while Alt+F4/Exit to Login Screen are quite reliable - game has so many situations where logout would either not save you or would kill you instead where you could've survived without logout.
i dont get why even complain about things like that. why care how ppl play.
and alt+f4 dont work since it leaves your char in game for a sec and that can kill easily.(maybe they fixed that)
and i get why ppl use log out just to try and save that 40++ hours played to not start all over again.
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Posted byanti4z500#5740on Nov 30, 2022, 6:22:05 AM
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Zyzurp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAeJf1uU-s
So this is how hc players play poe hc?
Im speechless.....
It's literally impossible and non-objective to look down on HC players while playing SC
Your argument (if you can call it) would be slightly more valid if you'd kill these bosses in HC
By dying 100 times in campaign and mocking HC players is just..silly
Wow, you are a special one!
I dont look down on hc players and i dont mock them! Do you get it???
I respect ZIZ alot for his work and what he has done for the poe community!
I wouldnt call myself a hc player if im abusing a logout macro to prevent my death. That´s it.
Tbh dude, killing 3 endgame bosses (easy ones) in hc (thanks macro for not dying) and running through poe forums like you are a pro hc player....is a bit weird. But keep defending what ever you are, maybe you become a Knight one day.
And hey nothing is objective....
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Posted byZyzurp#0636on Nov 30, 2022, 6:36:05 AM
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@Anti
You made a good point, why complain or care about how people play the game. Who exactly did this?
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Posted byZyzurp#0636on Nov 30, 2022, 6:38:26 AM
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Zyzurp wrote:
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shadowthedead wrote:
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Zyzurp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAeJf1uU-s
So this is how hc players play poe hc?
Im speechless.....
It's literally impossible and non-objective to look down on HC players while playing SC
Your argument (if you can call it) would be slightly more valid if you'd kill these bosses in HC
By dying 100 times in campaign and mocking HC players is just..silly
Wow, you are a special one!
I dont look down on hc players and i dont mock them! Do you get it???
I respect ZIZ alot for his work and what he has done for the poe community!
I wouldnt call myself a hc player if im abusing a logout macro to prevent my death. That´s it.
Tbh dude, killing 3 endgame bosses (easy ones) in hc (thanks macro for not dying) and running through poe forums like you are a pro hc player....is a bit weird. But keep defending what ever you are, maybe you become a Knight one day.
And hey nothing is objective....
Wasn't your "i'm speechless...." in a negative way?
I didn't say a word about myself, why would you target me now? Rage?
Well then, come to HC and kill those 3 bosses, you can use a logout macro if you want..no? then yeah, i expected no more
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Posted byshadowthedead#5607on Nov 30, 2022, 6:48:45 AM
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@Anti
You made a good point, why complain or care about how people play the game. Who exactly did this?
i did not mean that you or any1 specific. just generally. ppl complain about most stupid and irrelevant things imaginable
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Posted byanti4z500#5740on Nov 30, 2022, 6:52:35 AM
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anti4z500 wrote:
i dont get why even complain about things like that. why care how ppl play.
and alt+f4 dont work since it leaves your char in game for a sec and that can kill easily.(maybe they fixed that)
and i get why ppl use log out just to try and save that 40++ hours played to not start all over again.
Alt+F4 does work. It's the most reliable way along with "exit to login screen". You're mistaking it with "Exit to Character Selection" (or /exit command). That does leave character in game for like a second. TCP RST logout (which can only be done with a macro) is as fast as Alt+F4/Exit to Login Screen but it's also very unreliable, a lot of the time it fails due to single packet loss (and then your character stays in game for 6 secons as if you just lost connection), its upside is that you can use it to try to yeet your character out of the game when you client freezes for example (where alt+f4 might not work and UI is not responsive to click button).
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Posted byDemonikPath#1311on Nov 30, 2022, 7:25:43 AM
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DemonikPath wrote:
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anti4z500 wrote:
i dont get why even complain about things like that. why care how ppl play.
and alt+f4 dont work since it leaves your char in game for a sec and that can kill easily.(maybe they fixed that)
and i get why ppl use log out just to try and save that 40++ hours played to not start all over again.
Alt+F4 does work. It's the most reliable way along with "exit to login screen". You're mistaking it with "Exit to Character Selection" (or /exit command). That does leave character in game for like a second. TCP RST logout (which can only be done with a macro) is as fast as Alt+F4/Exit to Login Screen but it's also very unreliable, a lot of the time it fails due to single packet loss (and then your character stays in game for 6 secons as if you just lost connection), its upside is that you can use it to try to yeet your character out of the game when you client freezes for example (where alt+f4 might not work and UI is not responsive to click button).
it might be i am prob just getting old :D (but i remember long ago in 1 of this reveal videos/streams chris commented about that alt+f4 was not reliable and it left char in game, and i have hc rip long ago when i alt+f4 it got a rip and it was cos i alt+f4 GGG support commenting something like it vas because i alt+f4 and left my char in game for a sec ) but then again it was long ago so it may be not a case anymore
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Posted byanti4z500#5740on Nov 30, 2022, 7:36:47 AM
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it might be i am prob just getting old :D (but i remember long ago in 1 of this reveal videos/streams chris commented about that alt+f4 was not reliable and it left char in game, and i have hc rip long ago when i alt+f4 it got a rip and it was cos i alt+f4 GGG support commenting something like it vas because i alt+f4 and left my char in game for a sec ) but then again it was long ago so it may be not a case anymore
No, Chris specifically said that they made sure that Alt+F4 does logout as fast as possible, it just instantly disconnects before closing client. I know that Exit to Character Select is very slow and do not recommend using it. So the best way is to use Alt+F4 or click Exit to Login Screen in most situation and use TCP logout macro for situation where you can't logout normally (client freeze for example).
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Posted byDemonikPath#1311on Nov 30, 2022, 7:41:33 AM
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