So apparently Ruthless mode has instant logout.

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DemonikPath wrote:
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Rusery wrote:
I forget which interview it was, but even Chris uses the logout macro.

I posted it several times in this thread. It is this interview https://youtu.be/HKgvHRzt3ao?t=4275. Yet you people (yes, including you), keep ignoring it and what he says. Instant logout will not and should not be removed. And no, logout doesn't requiire any 3rd party software. The most reliable way to logout is Alt+F4 or pressing "Exit to Login Screen" (not character selection). Logout macro that is typically used (TCP RST) is far less reliable (much more prone to leaving your character with 6 second disconnect timer in game) and the only advantage it has is that it sometimes works when client is in some broken state (client froze for example).


You're not wrong. What I was referring to when I said macro was just autohotkey. You can bind those keys nicely to a single one, like Alt+F4. No TCP severing, no complex 3rd party stuff. You're correct as anything like that would be considered a disconnect and would be silly to self impose.

When you say instant logout will not and should not be removed I dont know if you're even talking to me or not. I agree though.

Also I apologize about seemingly ignoring your posts with links. I tend to skim and there was already 5 pages to catch up on. I was really just replying to OP without much other thought.

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MarloStanfield wrote:


I'm playing hardcore ruthless alpha...... and have been playing hardcore (sometimes SSF) since 2011.
Care to explain this then? You deleted your message but it can easily be recovered. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/z4w2xs/instant_logout_doesnt_belong_in_ruthless_mode/ixvyga0/?context=3 (for those who haven't seen it - it was message by KZA and the thread was also started by him, I'm not the one calling him out on this, I just saw that around the same time I noticed this thread and only later I noticed it was started by same person).
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DemonikPath wrote:
Care to explain this then? You deleted your message but it can easily be recovered. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/z4w2xs/instant_logout_doesnt_belong_in_ruthless_mode/ixvyga0/?context=3 (for those who haven't seen it - it was message by KZA and the thread was also started by him, I'm not the one calling him out on this, I just saw that around the same time I noticed this thread and only later I noticed it was started by same person).


Um, you can literally look at my account right here..... It's that button to the right.

Not sure why some people are going all conspiracy theory on me. What, you think I'm showing off fake hardcore characters, and my motive is to prevent the people that actually play hardcore/ruthless from having their precious logout macro?

Think about stuff for like at least 10 seconds before jumping to conclusions, people.
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DarthSki44 wrote:

In the video he uses logout macro to instantly leave a dangerous phase, in a fight where a portal isn't allowed, in order to reenter, and use invulnerable phase to negate a damage mechanic.

I'm asking people what they think about it.

With PoE in its current unstable state I am not against logout. But what I think here is that in HC bossess in no-TP zones should only give one chance. Meaning all portals close upon boss activation.
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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MarloStanfield wrote:

FYI: I am in that tiny overlap zone. Or rephrasing: I dont think your image represents reality accurately.
No wonder it's lost, it's in the middle of the jungle!
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Zrevnur wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:

In the video he uses logout macro to instantly leave a dangerous phase, in a fight where a portal isn't allowed, in order to reenter, and use invulnerable phase to negate a damage mechanic.

I'm asking people what they think about it.

With PoE in its current unstable state I am not against logout. But what I think here is that in HC bossess in no-TP zones should only give one chance. Meaning all portals close upon boss activation.

I think better 100% heal boss if character leave boss zone with portal/logout, so you can't abuse it in boss fights, but still can save character or try again if you got random dc.
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Fapmobile wrote:
"A button that instantly brings me to safety"

There was never such thing. Otherwise people wouldn't constantly die on hc.
Adding a logout timer doesn't make the game harder, it makes it annoying.


Instant logout is just bad game design.

But I understand that GGG can’t fix their design cluster fuck mess, so instant logout is the ugly emergency solution for the moment. A very long moment, for sure 😝
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DemonikPath wrote:
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anti4z500 wrote:
it might be i am prob just getting old :D (but i remember long ago in 1 of this reveal videos/streams chris commented about that alt+f4 was not reliable and it left char in game, and i have hc rip long ago when i alt+f4 it got a rip and it was cos i alt+f4 GGG support commenting something like it vas because i alt+f4 and left my char in game for a sec ) but then again it was long ago so it may be not a case anymore

No, Chris specifically said that they made sure that Alt+F4 does logout as fast as possible, it just instantly disconnects before closing client. I know that Exit to Character Select is very slow and do not recommend using it. So the best way is to use Alt+F4 or click Exit to Login Screen in most situation and use TCP logout macro for situation where you can't logout normally (client freeze for example).


You are completely missing the point of the thread though. No one is trying to remove logout from the game, the discussion is about logout on ruthless, wich is a new mode supposed to bring new challenges (harder ones).

Even if we consider logout macros as part of the game design, in ruthless lots of game mechanics were removed or changed so it's pretty plausible to question if this should be a part of ruthless.

And just to make my opinion about that one, HC with logout macros is not really HC :)
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