POE Whales - What are your thoughts on PoM ban and losing thousands $$?

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zodann wrote:

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xaerobb wrote:

What federal law!?
When you installed this game you voluntarily accepted the TOS and thereby agreed with one of the rules that you can be removed from the game at the discretion of the author, even without his obligation to give any explanation for it.

In german atleast ToS is not the Law, you can put in the TOS what you like.
like when you click accept i get your first born. i refuse to give my kid to them bc its stupit and they Sue me.

then the law comes in and most like i hope so i can keep my kid ^^

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ZazenSatori wrote:

Realize Digital items have zero intrinsic value, they are not our "asset".

Spending your money on digital items isn't an "investment", it's a "donation" for something of no legal material value (other than what you, personally, felt it was worth at the time of purchase), therefore doesn't even really exist legally on your machine, you're just leasing the intellectual property for your upfront fee, GGG still owns the intellectual property outright, so they can do with it what they please.

From a strictly legal standpoint, you cannot take something away from someone that they never legally owned in the first place. That's why no one has ever successfully sued a "software as a service" gaming studio for material losses after an account suspension.

I don't agree with the lifetime ban, but buyer beware, any digital effect you purchase to view on your account is part of that "software as a service' Terms of Service legality clause, which, if you read the fine print, specifically stipulates they can legally revoke or deny access to anything they like on your account for violations of the ToS you agreed to.

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ivqancorp wrote:

I think this is why the large supporters of GGG, people who buy all the Supporter Packs are now worried about future purchases. Anyone could lose what they have in a blink of an eye for something they said in a completely separate platform. You have to constantly worry about the money you earned and spend with GGG. And that's a fair assessment.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Not a whale but I think it a mistake just from a business prospective. He had a decent following no matter what you think of him, some like his edgelord style and that brings GGG more cash/attention. I would not have banned him. But apparently it's only his account banned and will be allowed back next season under a new account so I guess they didnt really ban him. More like a costly time out.

But I'm pretty chill. In construction industry I work with rough ppl. Actually been threaten to be killed by an employee once. We got over it. He was a good employee and just got too much sun that day.

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ivqancorp wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Not a whale but I think it a mistake just from a business prospective. He had a decent following no matter what you think of him, some like his edgelord style and that brings GGG more cash/attention. I would not have banned him. But apparently it's only his account banned and will be allowed back next season under a new account so I guess they didnt really ban him. More like a costly time out.

But I'm pretty chill. In construction industry I work with rough ppl. Actually been threaten to be killed by an employee once. We got over it. He was a good employee and just got too much sun that day.

Really??? That's extreme. If POM had dome something that extreme and threatened any GGG staff with physical violence I wouldn't be so worried about my own cosmetics and purchases, but all he did was call Chris bald and a rtard for his game decisions with 3.19. And not saying Chris deserved it, but let's be honest, Chris has back peddled on those decisions, so even he knows they are terrible decisions.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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ivqancorp wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Not a whale but I think it a mistake just from a business prospective. He had a decent following no matter what you think of him, some like his edgelord style and that brings GGG more cash/attention. I would not have banned him. But apparently it's only his account banned and will be allowed back next season under a new account so I guess they didnt really ban him. More like a costly time out.

But I'm pretty chill. In construction industry I work with rough ppl. Actually been threaten to be killed by an employee once. We got over it. He was a good employee and just got too much sun that day.

Really??? That's extreme. If POM had dome something that extreme and threatened any GGG staff with physical violence I wouldn't be so worried about my own cosmetics and purchases, but all he did was call Chris bald and a rtard for his game decisions with 3.19. And not saying Chris deserved it, but let's be honest, Chris has back peddled on those decisions, so even he knows they are terrible decisions.

I'd say half our 36 employees have criminal history. If I cancelled everyone I'd have no one to do work. It's like the military right now cant get enough ppl due to mistakes and high standards Army is 60,000 short on recruits this year. We gotta learn forgiveness IMO

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youngjuzell wrote:

Dude, it's just a twitch chat comment. Ban him in game make GGG look very bad