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"if you think that any gear Mathil uses is mirror tier" - Vennto

"argument from ignorance" You don't know what this phrase means. You could say "finding the example that proves the rule", or "finding an exception".

Argument from ignorance would be if I said "Mathil did not post his gear, therefore it must be mirror tier"

Instead we can see specific examples. You can disagree with me, but look up the term first.

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trixxar wrote:

"if you think that any gear Mathil uses is mirror tier" - Vennto

"argument from ignorance" You don't know what this phrase means. You could say "finding the example that proves the rule", or "finding an exception".

Argument from ignorance would be if I said "Mathil did not post his gear, therefore it must be mirror tier"

Instead we can see specific examples. You can disagree with me, but look up the term first.

Yes, yes you found an item, good job. Doesnt change the fact thta vast majority of his gear isnt even close to that price range. Also the only reason he has this helmet is because he made it. Anyone can get lucky you know?

The real question is: If he can take any skill considered trash tier and make it work on reasonable budget why cant you do the same with a good one?

Want more examples? Take Ziz or Nugi. They play SSF HC, they can beat the game. Granted they play meta but they still do. You can put any streamer in here and the story will be the same. [Removed by Support]

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kuciol wrote:

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Ah yes, nice to see you getting along with fellow community members.

Also I'd like to know what the definition of "making it work" is?

Mathil isn't deep delving, doing uber bosses, juicing maps, running cosmos altars, or anything along those lines.

So yea if fininshing the campaign and doing some red maps is "making it work", then I suppose there is larger diversity in that context.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Ah yes, nice to see you getting along with fellow community members.

Also I'd like to know what the definition of "making it work" is?

Mathil isn't deep delving, doing uber bosses, juicing maps, running cosmos altars, or anything along those lines.

So yea if fininshing the campaign and doing some red maps is "making it work", then I suppose there is larger diversity in that context.

So he is playing like avg Joe should. I also suck at the game if it makes you feel better.

If you arnt part of 0.1% you shouldnt expect doing content made for them.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Mathil isn't deep delving, doing uber bosses, juicing maps, running cosmos altars, or anything along those lines.

So yea if fininshing the campaign and doing some red maps is "making it work", then I suppose there is larger diversity in that context.

Well, just think about the opposite side. Uber bosses, literally the hardest content in the game. How hard should they be? Every build should be able to do them? Easily? On what budget? 1ex? 10ex? 100ex? 1000ex?

What about 1k delving? Or 100% deli? 30 simuls? 200 quant invitations?

I guess the question is, how many players should be able to do the hardest content in the game and on what investment? How do you balance it? Do you believe most people should be able to do the hardest content in the game? What percentage of players should be able to beat Uber Exarch?

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Revnaut wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

Mathil isn't deep delving, doing uber bosses, juicing maps, running cosmos altars, or anything along those lines.

So yea if fininshing the campaign and doing some red maps is "making it work", then I suppose there is larger diversity in that context.

Well, just think about the opposite side. Uber bosses, literally the hardest content in the game. How hard should they be? Every build should be able to do them? Easily? On what budget? 1ex? 10ex? 100ex? 1000ex?

What about 1k delving? Or 100% deli? 30 simuls? 200 quant invitations?

I guess the question is, how many players should be able to do the hardest content in the game and on what investment? How do you balance it? Do you believe most people should be able to do the hardest content in the game? What percentage of players should be able to beat Uber Exarch?

Isnt that the point? Is the game diverse if all skills can do the campaign, but only 5-7 can do aspirational content?

So we are not really "opposites", more just curious about qualifiers on player expectations.

It gets really grey here, which is why GGG balancing can get confusing at times. When a skill is balanced, what is it being balanced to? Because if it's on aspirational, endgame only, (or the 1%ers), then you get into player expectation hell.

Bringing ultraendgame and aspirational content into the discussion when it comes to what an average player is supposed to do is beyond ridiculous.

But it just further strengthens my view of what the community wants. No matter how hard and restricted new content is, people want to be able to clear it without investment, skill, talent or training.

I wonder why it is so difficult to comprehend that there are already 500 games out there that hands u everything on a silver platter, why are people not just swapping instead of trying to water down poe.

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Vennto wrote:

Bringing ultraendgame and aspirational content into the discussion when it comes to what an average player is supposed to do is beyond ridiculous.

But it just further strengthens my view of what the community wants. No matter how hard and restricted new content is, people want to be able to clear it without investment, skill, talent or training.

I wonder why it is so difficult to comprehend that there are already 500 games out there that hands u everything on a silver platter, why are people not just swapping instead of trying to water down poe.

There are different avenues of difficulty. Dying because of clearly underpowered gear is not the same thing as dying due to 0.5 sec incoming crit burst synchronized with incoming mark or stun, in situations you could not have predicted visually. And the latter kind only exists in PoE.

If you can clear 30 juiced T16 maps without ever getting to low health (so your gear may be called viable for the content), you can still die in 31st map with same grade of mods, and lose exp over something impossible to manually react to (which is one of the cornerstones of Arpg genre, you should be able to fight, not just roll gear checks). Again, only PoE has things like blighted mob ranged barrages.

The only way to avoid exp loss is to minmax gear to extreme heights just for the sake of very rare circumstances, and this is the point where design gets "bad". Advanced crafting is not something that all players should be forced to do.

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Revnaut wrote:

I guess the question is, how many players should be able to do the hardest content in the game and on what investment? How do you balance it? Do you believe most people should be able to do the hardest content in the game? What percentage of players should be able to beat Uber Exarch?

These are great questions.

To me, if only 0.0001% of people are doing some content, so not even all streamers, then it speaks to funding a company spending their resources on a tiny, tiny minority of players.

This is not an anti-GGG or anti-corporate idea. If you give them money, they hire devs to spend time on content almost no one is using, then that is not a great use of time or money.

It is perfectly reasonable to criticize a company where you give them money, they intentionally and purposefully do not spend it on you or players like you, but instead spend it on a tiny minority of players.

Seeing as ALL of the endgame this last league was the uber ubers, it means 100% of endgame development and release was based around the 0.0001% (whatever it ends up being).

Players are not entitled to do all content. GGG is not entitled to be free from criticism if they use their time/money on content almost no one sees.

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kuciol wrote:

Also the only reason he has this helmet is because he made it. Anyone can get lucky you know?

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Actually a follower gave it to him, I was watching his stream because I was interested in an absolution build, but that helm is what it took to make it work.

All you need for build diversity, become a streamer, get mirror tier gear given to you.

Brilliant plan Kuciol.


Also, bashing people while you don't even play the league? Being a white knight does not mean you have any skill whatsoever at the game. You get that right?