HALF of playerbase has quit in 1 WEEK

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Phrazz wrote:
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gandhar0 wrote:
Let's check numbers in one day to make it a more fair comparison.


Still basing numbers on the "goal" of every player playing league launch, will play every day? 'Most' players will be checking out the launch. 'Most' players will then spread their gaming time out a bit, I would assume.

Anyhow, as I said; as long as they survive with these numbers, I don't care; they are pushing out quality. The numbers might be as "bad" as people are saying. Does it matter?


The numbers just reflect how interesting and/or rewarding the league mechanics are. The same as last league with a similar dive of player numbers after one week.

It likely does not affect you or me in our personal gameplay experience but it shows how expectations are met and therefore the numbers that follow.



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I think we are about to have the number of players who playing PoE this weekend, guys. Hint: yeah it's still low.

The bottom line is not how much players still playing but how much they already spent. If loyal fans and random casuals already spent enough. I think GGG can sleep sound and well even if the league is a silent hill.
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gandhar0 wrote:
The numbers just reflect how interesting and/or rewarding the league mechanics are.


I disagree. Short time numbers don't "reflect" anything. Week-by-week numbers reflect more.

Launch day had 270,260 players (new record, BTW). If today's numbers show you 70,260 peak players, that does not mean that 200k players have quit. Everything it shows you, is that they aren't playing today. A graph telling us how many of the unique players from launch day have been logged in and played each week, would tell us even more.
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Phrazz wrote:
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gandhar0 wrote:
The numbers just reflect how interesting and/or rewarding the league mechanics are.


I disagree. Short time numbers don't "reflect" anything. Week-by-week numbers reflect more.

Launch day had 270,260 players (new record, BTW). If today's numbers show you 70,260 peak players, that does not mean that 200k players have quit. Everything it shows you, is that they aren't playing today. A graph telling us how many of the unique players from launch day have been logged in and played each week, would tell us even more.


Yeah you're hard on this pointless matter and got triggered. I guess i will leave here before the thread gets derailed too much.

Have a nice day.
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Phrazz wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
So yes there is some hyperbole here


Some?

He's comparing the numbers of an end-of-the-week league launch, to a random workday, and assumes that every player not playing that day, has quit. I wonder if this guy knows what a "life" is, and how it all works.

I don't really care about the numbers myself, because the content they've added here, is fucking great in every single way. And if this is the kind of quality they can push out "when dead" or "with critical low retention numbers" several leagues in a row (if we were to believe all these threads), I can't really find myself to be sceptic.

So, again, if this is the kind of content we can expect from their current flow of income based on "dead leagues", it's enough for me. You jumping on this topic like a magnet, even though it's more than hyperbolic, doesn't really surprise me :) Didn't they mention that they reached a new record regarding concurrent players at launch day? Doesn't that count for anything? Do they have to keep playing every day, just in case someone was to check the numbers?


Let's try to keep some sort personal shot out of this? You seem to input your thoughts in plenty of threads. That isn't even remotely the point, and takes away from what I was saying, and have been saying, for many many months now.

Retention is a big problem. QoL, Game Bloat, Casual vs No-Life design space, Stream & Advertising priority, and more are hurting the game in my opinion.

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On the streamer part, which is pretty OT for this thread, I do find it interesting that they have spent a ton of money this past year really pushing their streamer and game visibility, seemingly wanting to spurn growth, while simultaneously the game is more and more new player / average player hostile. It doesn't mesh.


So my thought on "some" hyperbole, is that the numbers were taken out of context. What the numbers represent isn't out of context however. It's a real problem, and we have entire multi-league statistics to back them up.
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Vennto wrote:
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developers need to reconsider their phylosophies because this game will be so dead when diablo 4 comes out

That was a good one


Its kinda true tho. Because when Diablo 4 comes out its gonne be so far from today we might not even play games anymore. Who knows if we gonna play games in 20 years.
As long as TenCent are happy with the revenue GGG provide 43% of players quitting within a week doesn't matter.
I stayed strong till 38
People dont play every league and they dont play every day. I havent played in 3 leagues im here every day for this one.

Ive been playing off and on ( 1-2 leagues a year and i do 36/40 in most of them) for almost ten years now.

PoE isnt hurting at all and 70 k daily players on a monday is pretty good also thats just steam numbers i have 3 people on my steam friends list playing this league that are not using the steam client.

This thread is just outrage bait with no basis in reality and some version of it gets posted every league and its never been true before and it isnt true now.

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