whats ur strats atlas tree now? what u think best/worst node? what dissapointer u and what bugged?

Are Harbinger nodes still useful, and worth allocating?
I read somewhere that they had been nerfed
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TreeOfDead wrote:
any1 know how much or what cap mechanic for maps?
like 5-6 content max? or someth? where see it?

can GGG expand map cap somehow or make it VISIBLE before u open map? i wanna kno whats limit...


why do you even think there is a limit?


only limit is you cant have like 2 expedtion encounter / 2 mirrors od delerium or 2 harvest and master are the ones which are limited to one which comes to my mind ( probably alot more )

but how many different things can spawn in a map is not a hard number more on rng side... if you add 1%-5% chances together is rly low to get like 2 different mechanics in a map ;D and tree is made so you can have many as you want in a map ;)
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KillerKrug wrote:
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TreeOfDead wrote:
any1 know how much or what cap mechanic for maps?
like 5-6 content max? or someth? where see it?

can GGG expand map cap somehow or make it VISIBLE before u open map? i wanna kno whats limit...


why do you even think there is a limit?


only limit is you cant have like 2 expedtion encounter / 2 mirrors od delerium or 2 harvest and master are the ones which are limited to one which comes to my mind ( probably alot more )

but how many different things can spawn in a map is not a hard number more on rng side... if you add 1%-5% chances together is rly low to get like 2 different mechanics in a map ;D and tree is made so you can have many as you want in a map ;)


There is a limit on the number of mechanics that can spawn in a map.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/sy495r/psa_atlas_mechanics_are_capped_request_allow_us/
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KillerKrug wrote:
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TreeOfDead wrote:
any1 know how much or what cap mechanic for maps?
like 5-6 content max? or someth? where see it?

can GGG expand map cap somehow or make it VISIBLE before u open map? i wanna kno whats limit...


why do you even think there is a limit?


only limit is you cant have like 2 expedtion encounter / 2 mirrors od delerium or 2 harvest and master are the ones which are limited to one which comes to my mind ( probably alot more )

but how many different things can spawn in a map is not a hard number more on rng side... if you add 1%-5% chances together is rly low to get like 2 different mechanics in a map ;D and tree is made so you can have many as you want in a map ;)


There is a limit on the number of mechanics that can spawn in a map.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/sy495r/psa_atlas_mechanics_are_capped_request_allow_us/


okay that explains why i pretty much never see random master missions xD i always thought it got nerfed spawnrate...

but since i get sometimes random things like meta/expedion/mirror or ritual its kind of save i guess xD ... but master missions cant even tell when i saw my last random spawn lol
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I've been stockpiling Kirac missions, shaper/elder maps (for chal) and Maraketh emblems, while going full strongboxes and Blight.
.. And the Archnemesis league which isn't in Atlas (yet ?)

Thinking about crafting loads of twin bosses maps for metamorph+scarab/currency boss nodes, that's an interesting combo.
I've been rotating the atlas tree a bit for completing challenges and taking profit of scarabs/master missions.. But I have a few questions.

- Is the corrupted/rare strongboxes any useful ? I don't see the point in losing the possibility to enhances those.
- Harbinger bosses worth it ? I've only tested a bit when they first appeared... two leagues ago IIRC. But felt like they were just slower harbys not worth. Do they really give higher chances of ex/ancients ?
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Ultimatum : https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2023/48/6/1701517789-ultimatum-league.png
Expedition : https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2023/48/6/1701518028-poe-expedition-in-a-nutshell.png
Last edited by fistoz on Apr 2, 2022, 2:14:03 AM
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fistoz wrote:

- Harbinger bosses worth ?

Worth IT. Yes they are worth IT.
Exalt shards and ancient orbs, how are they not worth IT.
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Nishrek wrote:
Are Harbinger nodes still useful, and worth allocating?
I read somewhere that they had been nerfed


Yes they've been nerfed because in the past you could get at least 1 mirror sahrd per map with those.
Its still one of best thing to add to ur maps.
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Nishrek wrote:
Are Harbinger nodes still useful, and worth allocating?
I read somewhere that they had been nerfed
They are still very good if you have extra harbingers in your maps (scarabs/kirac/sextants).

Without extra harbingers, these nodes aren't that great - you get like 2-4 exalt shards every 20 maps or so.
Last edited by 6_din_49 on Apr 3, 2022, 12:29:21 PM
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Nishrek wrote:
Are Harbinger nodes still useful, and worth allocating?
I read somewhere that they had been nerfed


Harbinger is not worth it unless you're running the Harbinger sextant.

Alot of data on Harbingers has been done.
On average, you get ~2 chaos per Harbinger in a map.

With the sextant you get ~5 chaos per harbinger.

This data was collected counting thousands of Harbinger maps disregarding Mirror shards but including Exalted shards/orb drops.

Harbinger on Mapdevice is 4 chaos so breakeven.
Rusted Harbinger Scarab is ~3 chaos for 2 harbingers so you get around 1 chaos profit.

If you're not running Sextant, Polished/Gilded harbinger scarabs will be a money loss.

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