3.16 - the 'we are sorry' patch

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

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Oh btw didnt you quit bro? what you still doing here or was it all just cry for attention?

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jsuslak313 wrote:

while I agree with OP assessment that lack of current PoB support will be a huge downside for a ton of players....

I think this is an excellent thing to strive for!

*gasp we have to test and try things IN GAME without having everything all planned and mapped out ahead of time! Sure, its complicated, and sure you will hit a wall at some point, but its finally classic PoE at least for a little bit.

If I were GGG, I would try my damnedest to create something that CAN'T be ported into PoB. Part of what hooked me into PoE in the beginning was the trial and error and regrets and respeccing required IN GAME to make a good build. Now, all of that is basically done completely outside the game and the game itself becomes a simulator for the PoB spreadsheet.

PoE is too old and bloated for it to work without external resources.
It would maybe work if we jump back in time before 2.0 where lot less mechanics are ingame.

Also the current ingame help is a bandaid at best and does not even cover 5% of relevant things to know mechanics wise.
PoB is a communiy effort that accumulated the knowledge of 10 thousands of hours of knowledge learned the hard way (as you said trial and error) condensed into one programm, called PoB.

Nowadays you have such funny things as 30k tooltips damage but in reality its around 4-10 million depending all buffs,interactions,etc.

Hardly anyone can grasp that with the tools available ingame regarding gamehelp, description of modifiers,etc.

You can still have the old vanilla experience and gauge your overall damage by looking at your tooltip only but then you end up with 30+ minutes Conqueror fights, if thats what you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uabz0D6grfA

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

Again i'm Having Close to 50k. Armor on my Jugg, but he is still dying 100x more compare to my Gladiator, even tho my Jugg have higher Life ....

You need Transcendence for your Jugg, but GGG nerfed this and Brassdome to the ground, rest in peace.

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Deathfairy wrote:

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

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Oh btw didnt you quit bro? what you still doing here or was it all just cry for attention?

Yeah i have already done that. I uninstalled the game, not just because of the ridiculous changes they make, but for a lot other factors.

And if i was actually still playing the game i would have spend my time ING, not in the forums.

I got no problem with quitting a game, where i don't like the direction the game is going or so.
I have already done that with POE in the beginning of Betrayal league.

I'm also a 32 years old grown man with a life, training regime and i'm not a no-lifer. I usually prefer to take my time playing and STD is the place for me, but when i go for new character, which i do from time to time, but not because someone forced me(league), but actually when i feel i need to.

Anyway i think everyone makes their point quite clearly, and this is already off topic.
I will check the forum and path notes with new leagues from time to time, but i guess i will play the game again when POE2 comes to see if the game actually improved, and how different POE 2 is.

I may post what my Gladiator has lost in terms of defense/offense when the 3.16 kicks, but will be from POB, cause the game is already in the history for me. But i'm curious how much they deleted my Gladiator.

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

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Deathfairy wrote:

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RoyalMarauder wrote:

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Oh btw didnt you quit bro? what you still doing here or was it all just cry for attention?

Yeah i have already done that. I uninstalled the game, not just because of the ridiculous changes they make, but for a lot other factors.

And if i was actually still playing the game i would have spend my time ING, not in the forums.

That is not quitting that is uninstalling the game, i can do that too, i will take me 60 min to get it back, might even improve performance while i am it.
None of us are playing the game because league is about to end lol.

But i got the idea, cry for attention it is.

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Deathfairy wrote:

That is not quitting that is uninstalling the game, i can do that too, i will take me 60 min to get it back, might even improve performance while i am it.
None of us are playing the game because league is about to end lol.

But i got the idea, cry for attention it is.

As an uninvolved third party I just have to say that I hear your cry for mercy. Come on guys give the poor guy a break, he is just the type that can't admit it openly.

Can you do the math ? Last time i quit for real(just like now) it was back in the end of the Delve League, Betrayal start. I come back playing in and out 2 months ago. That is 2,5 year, but you can do the math.

As i said i will install the game to see what POE 2 has to offer. Obviously i like POE a lot, and more importantly love the ARPG genre, otherwise i wouldn't come back. But as i said and not going to repeat again in this thread there is too many negatives , that are overshadow the positives.


And btw one of my goals was to get to lvl 100, my Gladiator is 98 and i needed exactly like 1 or at max 2 days to get to there. If i wasn't quitting i would have already get it to 100.

But i couldn't care less if you or anyone else believe me or not.

Without exaggeration ~9000 posts of whining about balance for over 8 years.
No offense but I think complaining about PoE is just your lifestyle because it creates discussion, not that the game sucks.

Although I dislike power creep, I think this patch is perfectly fine with a meta shake-up, imba getting nerfed, party play being improved, more endgame, hard mode and revamps.

The plan truth is that melee is low priority for GGG. Not sure why? I like melee personally. Prior to this past 3.15 release I had played just melee character for like a year. 3.15 made those characters not fun. I could still play an already level 94 or so in standard but it was dying more and leveling a new melee character was just not fun anymore for me. So I switched to a ranger/bow/evasion build and was able to play this release.

I'm willing to sacrifice a lot of clear speed to get a tanky fun melee character. I just don't have any good options that I know of right now.

Passive tree is in:

- the 'better access to max res for Armour users' turned out to be 'spend 5 passives to get +3 max res' placed in.. at least somewhere relevant to theoretical AR build. It is ENORMOUS price to pay.

- AR nodes were not upgraded AT ALL. Inexorable, Combat Stamina and the likes are still 100% not worth taking (CS maaaybe as a RF char, if you are nearby and new to the game).

- basic value of %AR gained from the tree is ~the same

- AR masteries are.. what masteries? All i see is 25% inc reservation efficiency for Determination. Reflect is cool (and the healing with meme helmet most likely will be patched out before release) but '600 AR when Guard buff active'? what? pendulum defensive mechanics are terrible and noone likes them

In general these AR 'buffs' turned out to be what I expected. More passive pressure, more aura pressure to get what honestly should have been simply baked into existing (worthless) passives. 2h AR mace character? lol :)


- Strike Range.. yep. Removed from 'free' sources, added to the tree in small quantities for enormous price. It is a horrid nerf to archetype that needs desperate and dramatic buffs ffs

- 'access to Spell Block is now easier'.. kinda cannot find it, +3% Spell block here and there is not 'it'. That baby Versatile Combatant is pretty much mandatory if anyone wants Spell Block