3.15 is alright, for people who know what to do. Casuals or part-timers, the worst patch ever

People/Devs should also have in mind, that actually the majority of the player base, are not wasting their precious time staying 24/7 at the forums, but actually playing the game.
Forums on pretty much every game is the worst experience you can get. You don't get anything in response. Why in the blue hell, an actual smart gamer/player would want to argue with a 14 year old kid, who are copy/paste what his favorite daddy, oh pardon streamer says.
Why would I waste my precious time arguing with someone with pre-made mind ? I will actually waste my time in nervous, instead of playing and enjoying the game.
People nowadays need to stop crying all over, and actually focus on more positive things. If you don't like the game, no one tied you. Good luck on the next adventure.

And reading some of the posts, o dear. Someone have said that POE have high mechanical skills. What a ****** joke. Poe have absolutely zero raw player skill involved.
People who know what to do, you say. Really? :D And you know it, cause you copy/paste it from some streamer/tuber. Cause this is what most people who actually thing they are good in a game that is zero skill-based.
You can talk about skill/casuals, when the game actually require skill, not when you following a guide/build and have Path of Buildings and so on.

Think they have the player type confused. Casuals and part-timers aren't noticing much of a change at all, if they're even aware of it.

The players you're talking about are "wannabees".

I find it rather funny that people with several thousand of hours played, leave a bad review based on one patch. I mean, do they have lots of games they've put thousands of hours into? One should think that those thousands of hours of joy should mean more than a patch they disagree with.

Using reviews as a tool to "force" someone to do what you want is, in lack of better words; idiotic and very egoistic.

But what the hell do I know, I still enjoy the game - and struggle very hard to see how people can go from loving the game - to hating the crap out of it based on one patch with fairly substantial changes, yet VERY over-exxagerated.

That seems to be at the core of a lot of the recent conflict here on the forums though Phrazz. People can adopt very different playstyles and preferences in this game, it's one of its great strengths.

So a significant change might have a relatively minor impact on yourself, but be entirely game breaking for someone else.

If everyone wanted to play the game in the most efficient way then we'd all be Headhunter wearing Mirror-millionaires wouldn't we? The reality though is different and some people aren't able to pivot as easily. Some people hate playing totems or minions and will just never play that way, so if the meta changed where that was the only way to enjoy the game then it would be understandable that a large proportion of the player population would express their displeasure.

On an unrelated note, it's been interesting for me to go back and look at all the other leagues (gosh, there sure has been a lot of them) and reflect upon the changes in the game over time. Back in the early days a league meant introducing a basic mechanic like strongboxes, a few extra gems and some interesting uniques which generally offered interesting ways to interact with the game but not necessarily extra power. Very few things were game breaking.

Somewhere along the way I would agree that GGG lost their way and introduced mechanics that required more power (such as timers) and then gave players the ability to generate that power. The game today bears little resemblance to that early game play and I think GGG should simply acknowledge the horse has bolted. Trying to turn the ship now is pointless and counterproductive.

PoE2 should just be an entirely separate game. Trying to force the player base to change significantly (it has been made clear, the changes in this league are only the tip of the iceberg) is not a wise decision. Why not let PoE be the zoom zoom bubble gum game that many of the recent players enjoyed playing and then have PoE 2 be Chris' magnum opus?

For a lot of builds this also means:

They took the players power to beat the timers, left the timers in the game.

They gave the monsters more power to try to contest the timer beating players. Left those unchanged

A lot of builds feel exactly that

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kuciol wrote:

BUT THEY ALREADY DID THAT! What else you want them to say? Chris himself said that they know players will get angry but they want to keep going THIS direction from now on regardless. THE END. Nothing besides "we are sorry we are rolling 3.13 now" wont satisfy you anyway so why even bother? What do you expect them to say? Thats why i call this topics stupid childish rant. They are pointless.

So what youre saying is people should give 9/10 to a game they very much enjoyed spent THEIR money on but said GTFO? After spending money? Seems logical.

I would feel baited. I wouldn't have spent money on this game if this type of BS was apparent from the moment I started playing. Many people got screwed over call them whatever you want but GGG fucked them over no doubt about that. Whats wrong with writing a scathing review because you feel cheated? I mean isnt that what reviews were for? Warning other potential players to the shit GGG does is completely fair in my opinion.

How many supporter packs did they sell because they of the direction they went? You think they would have had the growth they experienced if they didnt cater to zoom zoom? If their game was in its current state of tedium, less rewarding bs (its rewarding i guess if spend you spend your life on it?), unresponsiveness (GGG is an indie company, kek used to love that one) and just their overall deceitfulness you think it would grow much?

They got your money and now suddenly this game is not headed in the direction they envisioned? BS. If anything they deserve far worse than they are getting. People need to stop defending GGG.

For me, i fell in love with this game and i feel a type of way looking at whats going on in the game. The image and the feel of poe i fell in love with is still with me but if this is the shitshow thats in store for us in the future then im probably just gonna be one of those people writing a shitty review.

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Phrazz wrote:

I find it rather funny that people with several thousand of hours played, leave a bad review based on one patch. I mean, do they have lots of games they've put thousands of hours into? One should think that those thousands of hours of joy should mean more than a patch they disagree with.

Using reviews as a tool to "force" someone to do what you want is, in lack of better words; idiotic and very egoistic.

But what the hell do I know, I still enjoy the game - and struggle very hard to see how people can go from loving the game - to hating the crap out of it based on one patch with fairly substantial changes, yet VERY over-exxagerated.

Dropping 50%+ nerfs, increasing grind by 100%+, reducing rewards and expecting people to be positive or neutral about it is idiotic and very egotistic.

I think people are using reviews as a tool to try to force change because GGG isn't really responding to feedback. If GGG won't listen, maybe other gamers will.

Not only that, if you read through the non-one-liner reviews, a lot of them are simply true.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

The players you're talking about are "wannabees".

You, again.

Nope, I took a good while to foment my thoughts into cohesive feedback commentary.

"Wannabes", lol. What does that even mean? If anything, the way I understand the word, patch 3.15's nerfs should have intensified the wannabeness of these people you think I'm talking about.

You have a _really_ bad habit of thinking you know more about what other people mean and think then they do, it's grating, it's churlish, and you're entirely wrong.

If one so desires, they may play Poe as a job, making money. That's a small percentage of people.

You wanna know what else is a small percentage of people? The percentage that have downloaded Path of Exile, and have played the game this month.

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Phrazz wrote:

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nvmthanh11011992 wrote:

WTF you asking about ?
He alreay said that his fun is a big guy running around and kill stuff , it simple ,it just his feeling , his "enjoyed". Im same as him and i dont care about mechanics or boss mechanics or graphics or reactive gameplay . I play game for fun , not for think about it still "game" or not "game" .I care about my fun so when i dont feel fun , i complaint . It answer your ?

I got my answer from the guy I quoted, who actually manage to not go all defensive, like I hurt his feeling or something, something you seem to struggle with. When I, in so many words, ask "what is it about it you enjoy", and you manage to reply, in so many words, "I enjoy it", I really don't know what to do anymore.

I get that you, and I - and everyone play the game for "fun". I'm not having a problem with you're "fun". I just don't understand it - and was curious, hence; I asked. When you can't explain what you find "fun" about it, other than just "it's fun", we're not getting anywhere.

You should look at Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index's answer, which was actually an answer, and not some defensive rubble.

I already answer it , so what part of "his fun is a buy guy running around and kill stuff" you dont understand ? And again , my fun is same as him . If you think that not the answer you looking for or you not undersand what my "fun" is , it your propblem , not we . You said my answer not anser but a defensive rubble ? Again , your problem .