GGG's Regrets of 3.15 Patch - Player Backlash

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Phrazz wrote:
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
see, thats the problem


No, this is the problem:

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Tainted_Fate wrote:
what powercreep?


xD Brilliant

That is what you have to deal with. Someone who doesnt believe in power creep and blocks responses xD Golden

Careful, next when you post 5 times you may be accused of spreading your narrative all over the place. Lmfao
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typhn wrote:
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:


You spend 10k orbs on those foils ? For what ? Alterations ? thats not much of an investment at all for either of those. Also you could craft them for free by simply utilizing harvest. Theres literally zero reason to hand roll items in any league because harvest. The only time that isnt true is if you have a fractured based. Otherwise youre wasting your time and money.

Thats the knowledge gap i mentioned earlier. Youre choosing a method which clearly isnt the best and wasting your time. Not sure if you dont know or are choosing to ignore it but yeah.


Nice shaming tactic, but this game existed before harvest and synthesis league.
LOL shaming ? So someone telling you, that you wasted your currency doing something not efficiently is now "shaming" lmao ? You need to go outside my guy.

Youre talking about your current gear on your current character, in SSFSC, stop pretending that the statement you made is somehow retroactively relevant.

Crafting before all the shit was different because the weightings were different, weighting have 100% changed since then and have been appropriately changed based on the factor of multiple crafting methods like harvest existing.

So when you complain about spending 10k orbs on two, mediocre foils, youre obviously going to be called out on it. Either for intentional ignorance or lack of game knowledge. In the case of you actively choosing to ignore it, thats your problem. In the case of you not having the game knowledge, thats also on you.

Are you one of those people who say "wow harvest is terrible!" after GGG removed the garbage game ruining item editor ? If so then that just means you dont know how to use it. Current harvest is still OP. You could see better weapon results by simply spamming harvest, which costs no currency to you at all.

And again, still didnt address what i said about the legacy gear either. Youre playing SSFSC which id assume you dont have access to actual standard gear, so claiming youre playing "permanent league" is factually false.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Aug 4, 2021, 12:08:31 AM
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

So when you complain about spending 10k orbs on two, mediocre foils, youre obviously going to be called out on it. Either for intentional ignorance or lack of game knowledge. In the case of you actively choosing to ignore it, thats your problem. In the case of you not having the game knowledge, thats also on you.


Talking, talking, talking... Try to listen sometimes. I never complain about spending lot of currency, i even written that i like it, and its challenging. It was only to illustrate time and engagement this game required, to show further why overcorrecting and balancing trigger people to leave game. So shaming me about lack of knowledge about leagues that don't even existed on that time, is irrelevant and only shows your arrogance.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

And again, still didnt address what i said about the legacy gear either. Youre playing SSFSC which id assume you dont have access to actual standard gear, so claiming youre playing "permanent league" is factually false.


I addressed it already, try to listen or read, instead just waiting for your turn to speak.
They out of economy, or accessible to only few. So they irrelevant to the current problems. Problem that i addressing is that you log in to game and if there was patch your build may have halved dps, defence, speed, resource pool, regardless of league. I just report psychological effect of punishing people for they time and effort trigger them to quit.


Its really cool that you are so knowledgeable about this game, more power to you for your effort and engagement, but we have this discussion because we want this game to be success, not to shame others.
Good luck!
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typhn wrote:
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

So when you complain about spending 10k orbs on two, mediocre foils, youre obviously going to be called out on it. Either for intentional ignorance or lack of game knowledge. In the case of you actively choosing to ignore it, thats your problem. In the case of you not having the game knowledge, thats also on you.


Talking, talking, talking... Try to listen sometimes. I never complain about spending lot of currency, i even written that i like it, and its challenging. It was only to illustrate time and engagement this game required, to show further why overcorrecting and balancing trigger people to leave game. So shaming me about lack of knowledge about leagues that don't even existed on that time, is irrelevant and only shows your arrogance.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

And again, still didnt address what i said about the legacy gear either. Youre playing SSFSC which id assume you dont have access to actual standard gear, so claiming youre playing "permanent league" is factually false.


I addressed it already, try to listen or read, instead just waiting for your turn to speak.
They out of economy, or accessible to only few. So they irrelevant to the current problems. Problem that i addressing is that you log in to game and if there was patch your build may have halved dps, defence, speed, resource pool, regardless of league. I just report psychological effect of punishing people for they time and effort trigger them to quit.


Its really cool that you are so knowledgeable about this game, more power to you for your effort and engagement, but we have this discussion because we want this game to be success, not to shame others.
Yeah im not reading, clearly. Seems to be youre the one not doing that and breaking everything down to "shaming" lmao. wtf.

Why would i listen to anything thats OBJECTIVELY WRONG. Your opinion isnt fact, quit treating it as if it is and maybe someone would bother listening. No one cares about anyone complaining about emotionally backed non-fact based, non-issues. You want to be listened to ? How about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drivel.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:


Why would i listen to anything thats OBJECTIVELY WRONG. Your opinion isnt fact, quit treating it as if it is and maybe someone would bother listening. No one cares about anyone complaining about emotionally backed non-fact based, non-issues. You want to be listened to ? How about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drivel.


I just stated my opinions on topic (GGG's Regrets of 3.15 Patch - Player Backlash). I dont have access to full data, im not part of dev team, and my playstyle may not be representative. Still i illustrated my anecdotal experience to show why there is player backlash. You keep coming back at me with false claims about what i said, and you keep speculating about my motives. And im not even topic of this discussion. So how about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drive?
Good luck!
Last edited by typhn#2321 on Aug 4, 2021, 3:49:40 AM
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typhn wrote:
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:


Why would i listen to anything thats OBJECTIVELY WRONG. Your opinion isnt fact, quit treating it as if it is and maybe someone would bother listening. No one cares about anyone complaining about emotionally backed non-fact based, non-issues. You want to be listened to ? How about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drivel.


I just stated my opinions on topic (GGG's Regrets of 3.15 Patch - Player Backlash). I dont have access to full data, im not part of dev team, and my playstyle may not be representative. Still i illustrated my anecdotal experience to show why there is player backlash. You keep coming back at me with false claims about what i said, and you keep speculating about my motives. And im not even topic of this discussion. So how about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drive?
Ah yes, so you have no arguments at all and are just continuing by doing this rubber/glue shit, and you wonder why no one is taking you seriously. lol

Vocal minority of people on forums spouting their personal experiences and on reddit arent representative of shit.

But yeah bud, you must be right, which is why people were level 100 4 days into the league, why awakener 8-9 was down day 3 of the new league, why people are already solo delve 1k+ and group delve 5k+, in addition to people having no issues whatsoever enjoying the game besides the vocal minority who think some baby change nerfs gouged out the entire playability of the game LOL

Love you trying to say my claims are false though when all my statements made are entirely fact based, unlike yours.

Yep, games soo radically changed yet people are doing things just as fast as they did before!
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Aug 4, 2021, 4:28:52 AM
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
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typhn wrote:
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:


Why would i listen to anything thats OBJECTIVELY WRONG. Your opinion isnt fact, quit treating it as if it is and maybe someone would bother listening. No one cares about anyone complaining about emotionally backed non-fact based, non-issues. You want to be listened to ? How about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drivel.


I just stated my opinions on topic (GGG's Regrets of 3.15 Patch - Player Backlash). I dont have access to full data, im not part of dev team, and my playstyle may not be representative. Still i illustrated my anecdotal experience to show why there is player backlash. You keep coming back at me with false claims about what i said, and you keep speculating about my motives. And im not even topic of this discussion. So how about starting with honest, fact based, constructive criticism instead of emotionally fueled drive?
Ah yes, so you have no arguments at all and are just continuing by doing this rubber/glue shit, and you wonder why no one is taking you seriously. lol

Vocal minority of people on forums spouting their personal experiences and on reddit arent representative of shit.

But yeah bud, you must be right, which is why people were level 100 4 days into the league, why awakener 8-9 was down day 3 of the new league, why people are already solo delve 1k+ and group delve 5k+, in addition to people having no issues whatsoever enjoying the game besides the vocal minority who think some baby change nerfs gouged out the entire playability of the game LOL

Love you trying to say my claims are false though when all my statements made are entirely fact based, unlike yours.

Yep, games soo radically changed yet people are doing things just as fast as they did before!


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you are basically talking to yourself, interpreting shit in everything the other guy said, even tho he already stated he didnt mean it like you think he did.

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Last edited by Will_GGG#0000 on Aug 4, 2021, 6:28:59 AM
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
Ah yes, so you have no arguments at all and are just continuing by doing this rubber/glue shit, and you wonder why no one is taking you seriously. lol


Ill repeat myself, this is not topic about me. Its topic about player backlash in regard of patch 3.15. Your personal attack on me don't contribute to that topic. I will point that out every time you use argument "ad personam".


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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

Vocal minority of people on forums spouting their personal experiences and on reddit arent representative of shit.


Forum by definition is a place where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. We all have right to speak regardless of statistical significance.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

But yeah bud, you must be right, which is why people were level 100 4 days into the league, why awakener 8-9 was down day 3 of the new league, why people are already solo delve 1k+ and group delve 5k+, in addition to people having no issues whatsoever enjoying the game besides the vocal minority who think some baby change nerfs gouged out the entire playability of the game LOL

Love you trying to say my claims are false though when all my statements made are entirely fact based, unlike yours.

Yep, games soo radically changed yet people are doing things just as fast as they did before!


We discussing players backlash here, public steam statistic give us a clue how serious this backlash is. And i already acknowledges that there is still solid players-base who enjoy this game. But of course you did not read or ignore what i write before, and just come at me with random claims about what i "think" or "said"
Im getting tired of your confabulations. You are free to have any opinion on topic you like, but please stop misrepresenting of what i said or think.
Good luck!
Do you ever have anything to say other thing intentionally interpreting everything said towards you as a "personal attack" or "shaming" when its clearly neither ? LOL

You not understanding factual statements disproving your opinions isnt my problem. Stop treating everything that doesnt agree with your opinion as a personal attack and shaming.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!

Labyrinth salt farm miner.

"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Aug 4, 2021, 6:35:23 AM
Why all the anger and vitriol directed at typhn? They've honestly just expressed their own personal experience with the game and how the changes have detrimentally impacted their enjoyment of the game. From the explanation provided, their concern is quite justified to them.

Just because the way they enjoy the game is different from yours, why do you feel the need to undermine and berate them?

You've stated that "Vocal minority of people on forums spouting their personal experiences and on reddit arent representative of shit". "your opinion isn't fact" and "the true POE spirit is overcoming things. Be inventive and overcome the changes, thats the true POE spirit".

So if typhn is just plain wrong, why do you believe your opinion is so right? Why is your claim about the true POE spirit required to be blindly accepted by everyone? You come across as quite angry and just because someone expressed a personal opinion that you don't agree with. That doesn't seem very reasonable or warranted.

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