75% less flask charges is insane

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spaceace7373 wrote:

anyway, where's the trade system nerf at? i mean the rest of the game gets nerfed, why not trade. REMOVE THE OLD LISTINGS!!!!!!!!!!! more than one league of past trade items is more than sufficient. don't need year old listing anymore. get with the times

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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Shadeless01 wrote:

flasks feel worthless now

Hrm... not worthless. Just not a one-stop-fix-it-shop solution to every character build problem anymore.

- Not enough damage? Drink 3-links worth of flasks!
- Not enough resist? Swallow 65% elemental negation!
- Not enough Armor? Gulp a Tower Shield!
- Not enough Evasion? Quaff a Zodiac Leather!
- Low Chaos Resist? Chug a 60c ring!
- Not enough Physical mitigation? Swig 2/3rds of a fortify!
- Can't load 120% Curse maps? Swallow 2 rings, an acendency and 5 skill-nodes!

And so much more...

Potions were a cheap, easy way to avoid half the game's most dangerous and difficult content. You can still do it - you just have to gear and build around it now.

Seems fair to me.

And yeah, I feel bad for the folks in Standard - I'm one of them - who have to spend a pile of money to fix their characters. That sucks. But, there is no question the flask mechanics were over-powered and causing actual, measurable RSI. Something had to give.

Now, flasks are no-longer making-and-breaking builds, and, while you can still piano with enough gear... why would you want to hurt yourself for 6% More damage and a small spot of run-speed...

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goetzjam wrote:

So why nerf the charges in conjunction with the other nerfs?

On top of that, they left the map mod in the pool like I expected.

So now we getting 75% less charges in maps always and 50% or more less charges from that in red maps if you hit the mod.

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

So why nerf the charges in conjunction with the other nerfs?

On top of that, they left the map mod in the pool like I expected.

So now we getting 75% less charges in maps always and 50% or more less charges from that in red maps if you hit the mod.

While I can only guess, I'd theorize GGG wants you to invest more in the tree, acendencies and in gear to power slam flasks. I suspect they felt you were getting too much power for too little investment.

I'd tend to agree with that assessment.

...also, it was very easy for non-pathfinders to flask-piano - and maybe GGG felt that other classes were getting for free what the Pathfinder had to spend hard-won acendancy points on.

JUst me spitballing.

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goetzjam wrote:

for anyone else you maybe throw some of the currencies on it and just pray it is up for when you need it.

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goetzjam wrote:

But they nerfed the power of the flask, why also they also be super unreliable.

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goetzjam wrote:

As far as investing, its pretty much if you care about flask, you play pathfinder, for anyone else you maybe throw some of the currencies on it and just pray it is up for when you need it.

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goetzjam wrote:

I also care not what someone that plays standard thinks about power and investment.

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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spaceace7373 wrote:

anyway, where's the trade system nerf at? i mean the rest of the game gets nerfed, why not trade. REMOVE THE OLD LISTINGS!!!!!!!!!!! more than one league of past trade items is more than sufficient. don't need year old listing anymore. get with the times

I have hundreds of stash tabs. I'd simply take the item out momentarily, and put right it back in tab to re-fresh it's date and put it right back on the search. I can also alter the item with a chrome, armor scrap, glassblowers, gem-cutters, ect ect ect if you want to get cute.

And if you want to sabotage the market search more than that, I have my own website, and I'll simply list all of my 20ex+ items there and spam the address in trade constantly.

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spaceace7373 wrote:

if that makes you feel better go for it. the point is to remove listing that will never sell. if your listings are never intended to sell and are just for bragging about what you have, then people like you are one of the biggest problems with trade in the first place.

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Chalace2 wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

for anyone else you maybe throw some of the currencies on it and just pray it is up for when you need it.

No praying needed... you can literally make them so that they ARE used exactly when they are NEEDED.

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

In 3 years, it will be going market rate.

I'm willing to wait.