Auto trade. Price fixing solution?
" Spot on! Thanks to all for great feedback. So in short, I've learned this; A: Instant trade might be a more adequate term, involving the actual concept of autotrading. B: The idea of not having to be logged on is appealing. C: An auction house could be interesting if done right. Maybe in the shape of a bidding stock market. Your bid is locked for 1 minute. If no one else bids higher and that bid meets the seller minimum asking price, then the listed item is instantly traded. Even though that would not counter "sniping and some bots will try and push the price higher, the seller has the opportunity to decide whether or not to accept that bid if their minimum asking price wasn't met. That would negate the potential issue of rmt, if someone bids 20ex for a 5c item. Last edited by absurdistan88#0852 on Jun 21, 2021, 2:02:33 AM
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THE ONLY way I like this is if it could stick that 5c or less, but i doubt it. Everyone would just demand for more.
Poe is extremely unique in it's trade. And this maybe weird to say, but it has character. Pandering to trade maybe also pandering to those rmting. Idk, i may be speakin out my bung hole but hey. Bots be bottin, gotta think about that too...bots could drive 5c items to 1c and less. |
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" Please read the trade manifesto: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870 Confirmed in GGGs latest Q&A to still be valid. It explains why you'll not get autotrade... ever... GGG has been fully consistent on this issue since the game started. |
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" Sure, that's why tencent version got exactly the opposite.  "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019
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" Those are essentially two different games, managed by different companies, and run for different markets. It is also mentioned specifically in the manifesto: " |
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" This is the primary reason why I don't want to see auction in the game. You HAVE TO WAIT until the auction ends. If you have short time frame the item will be sniped by the bots with ease. If you have longer timeframe it will just slow down the trades especially for low tier items like maps, leveling gear, some currency etc. Moreover, for expensive items it's pretty easy to abuse the auction by bidding higher price from fake (or bot) accounts. For example I want to buy your 1 ex item. I offer base price 1 ex, then after 1-5 mins bot bids 1.5 ex, I have to bid 2 ex, bot bids 2.5 ex. Then I have to bid 3 ex etc. If you can't (or don't want) to bid higher price, the item will be sold to the last bidder - bot and returned to its owner. After that the process will repeat. But I don't want to compete with bots! Ppl asking to implement auction are definetly SELLERS or even botters, because they understand how vulnerable to the botting it will be. Last edited by cursorTarget#1174 on Jun 21, 2021, 7:28:45 AM
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" Seems to be relatively recent addition to Teh Holy Word Document, hehe. Still, did sky fall or earth turned flat in that particular "different" game due to the presence of the "market" mentioned, or was the "market" mentioned suddenly taken over by evil cylons, errm i meant bots (cause ya know, China in particular is kinda famous for their)? I guess no, it wasn't. (pic unrelated)  As it was discussed over9000 times before, all the terrible "catastrophe" of making some ingame semi-automated trade confirmation or even an auction house with the proper limitations would be guess what, easing the butthurt of a regular Jimmy, who wants to buy that single map he miss, or some goldrim, or whatever else of the same mediocre level of "value" but shits bricks cause nobody answers him except (surprise) these always polite, always interactive trade bots. "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019
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" Are we playing the Tencent version? |
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" That manifesto is full of really weird assumptions and double think. Worst of all, it seems to assume a dichotomy: Fully automated trade or manual crap, nothing in between. Over the years there have been incredibly many suggestions for a compromise limited trade (via count or time or value, etc...) but I think GGG simply lacks the manpower to bother doing anything about trade. So: It won't happen, OP, sorry. And at those who complain that this is the umpteenth thread regarding this topic: This is such a shit aspect of PoE that everybody deserves to make one thread about it. May your maps be bountiful, exile
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" No. Does that make Teh Holy Document any less obsolete tho, or does it make Holy Knights of Pixel Trade Purity any less zealous? As it was said again in the post above - it's all too black and white, either officially approved hoo-man interaction™ (trade bots taking their place in it, despite being an abomination in the light of Teh Holy Document, hehe) or that "omg imminent doom" Holy Knights are constantly speaking of, no middle ground whatsoever. "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019
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