3.14 Retention Rates

Hope that everyone here, no matter which side of this poo-slining fight they're on, has a really great day. Maybe a great week. Who knows.... maybe a great month.

Just got my grades in for the year and I'll never have to put up with Zoom nonsense again. It's going to be great to be back in the classroom in Fall. But for now... 98 day weekend starts now!

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Clownkrieger wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

PS: When it comes to the end game nerfs? I'm all for it. Beast-copying maps is, was and will always be dumb - and I'll defend that nerf till I die.

To add on that: They nerfed the overly easy acessibility of some overly rewarding strategies that didnt happen in empty space, but in a game with an "economy".

Endgame is still as "hard" as it has been, since some people always insist that they want to play it cause it is "the hardest content in the game" (as if it had been hard when you had a coordinated group for it... this is so laughable).

All this boils down to is "muh rewards got nefed". jeez.

So, the reason I assembled a coordinated group in the first place is because in the past, I did the juiced content solo. You'd play 200 maps to see a few headhunters. You'd quickly realize there are more efficient ways to play. More fun also working as a team than solo BTW. If you think it's easy to setup a group, go ahead and try. I'd salute you if you're able to get it off.

For just this league, we played in a coordinated group for just 2 weeks, there were far too many technical issues to be worthwhile this very league. So muh rewards got nerfed? Yeah that got nerfed, and wasn't rewarding enough to cover people crashing/dropping. More time was spent solo.

I'm not a fan of sitting in hideout, flipping, crafting all day. I, like many like killing stuff.

I could do 100% deli harbinger runs solo, but picking up currency is the least interesting for me, which btw, I didn't go telling them to nerf the all popular harbinger runs.

100% deli isn't however the only end-game. There's bossing, there's deep delve except what's the point doing those? I don't enjoy bossing. Deep delvers in my list didn't even bother delving this league.

There are far too many issues with this league, from performance to not having end-game and so what do we play? I tried 2 weeks of harvest and while I made mirrors in currency and gear doing so, it wasn't satisfactory to play. Since people don't understand this, try playing an entire league 10 hours a day with say 3 exalt drops. Come and tell me with a straight face then: "i had fun".

where did this guy come from all the sudden? was his old account banned? is that what his "problem" is?

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

where did this guy come from all the sudden? was his old account banned? is that what his "problem" is?

None, I'll tell you where I came from. I emailed GGG to inform them of some technical issues, they pointed me to the forums, not bothering to address the issues, and still haven't bothered to. Tech support forum riddled with the same issues.(did not bother responding to even any one of them) Yeah yeah, they do not need to respond to any, I get it. So here I am, sent by GGG.

Have all of you run out of good things to say about the league to focus on talking about me? Unable to respond, solution = silence me? Heh.

My problem with the league and certain people is very clear, I do not need to explain it.

Honestly, I'm quite tired of posting. You guys enjoy. I've said whats needed saying. I already read all the great things said about the league "it is nice" "i like killing mobs". Others have detailed better than I have the failures of this league. It's enough.

i dislike the league just as much as you,was just curious what your deal was. never seen you here before the past couple of weeks.
carry on

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

i dislike the league just as much as you,was just curious what your deal was. never seen you here before the past couple of weeks.
carry on

i cannot stand absurdity thats all.

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galuf wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

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Moridin79 wrote:

This is by far the biggest disappointment from one league to the next. GGG dropped the ball massively coming off an amazing 3.13. Hell, even standard was poppin off last league...

GGG surely had me scratching my head, not sure what they are tryin to accomplish.

Imho they went in a place where players were getting confortable at the game, most of the long term retention is players trying to be better at the game, "properly beat it". And in 3.13 players were able to, so for game longevity sake they decided to crush everything they could to oblivion for PoE to last longer. It was a calculated choice, it was shortsighted and not particulary fair/honest but it's how they do things. There was to many nerfs, and honestly some justifications got even memed by content creators that want the game to work in order to pay their rent. Keep in mind there is PoE2 around the corner, wich is huge for them.

Shortsighted was letting Harvest/endgame get to the state it was in. It wasn't like that for most of the game's history. Fairness and honesty don't factor in to what they want their endgame to be in any way. Those aren't vectors on which PoE's endgame even exists.

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Phrazz wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

Yes I find it ridiculous -- none so far have given a detailed explanation and reasoning why it's been a fun league. Where's yours?

I don't find it fun, hence I've quit playing this league. But if others find it fun, good for them. I'm happy for them. I wish I was in their shoes. Who am I to question someone else's fun?

On a world basis, the 'majority' finds Coca Cola better than Pepsi. Is it "ridiculous" in my eyes that someone finds Pepsi better? Absolutley not, because I know the world is bigger than me and my views, unlike you.

Hmm, then there´s this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZLS1V3iMw

CR7 might be arrogant, but he is totally right here :)

You must know by now the first few days are hype, after 1 week everyone's in their grind routine. Then after 2 weeks those who tried any new skills/balance changes start leaving. Week 3-4 are people pursuing further full end game clears. After month it's over - especially for HC.

That's why you don't want to miss the first 2 weeks of each league.

In 3 months you will probably have even a shorter window.

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___Hengist___ wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

Yes I find it ridiculous -- none so far have given a detailed explanation and reasoning why it's been a fun league. Where's yours?

I don't find it fun, hence I've quit playing this league. But if others find it fun, good for them. I'm happy for them. I wish I was in their shoes. Who am I to question someone else's fun?

On a world basis, the 'majority' finds Coca Cola better than Pepsi. Is it "ridiculous" in my eyes that someone finds Pepsi better? Absolutley not, because I know the world is bigger than me and my views, unlike you.

Hmm, then there´s this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZLS1V3iMw

CR7 might be arrogant, but he is totally right here :)

I don't get your point, 3.13 is coca cola and 3.14 water? Right? I get you are a football fan but there is absolutely no analogy there. People have forgotten how a strong portion of the vocal community was crying about harvest giving nothing in 3.13. You don't even ear them anymore, those guy got mansplained(kind of rightfully for non ssf players ^^') that they suck by the patch and a big chunk of them are not vocal or won't play the game for a while. I say that, because you may be in that pool of players in the future, getting explained to you that something that you don't navigate well is too good and will be removed.

Imho(very personnal opinion there), 3.14 is a complete disgrace, and I've yet to read a comment that makes half sense for the oposite. They nerfed the game for it to last longer, released a minuscule content patch and on top that we had new stability issues on the client and on the servers. The game was getting easier because the community was getting better.