3.14 Retention Rates

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LiMA6 wrote:

I find it so ridiculous people here actually defend this league "It was fun" when it is so evident it's a lot more disliked than many of its predecessors.

Then again, I just click on character tab then things become clear.

*s*

You still dont understand that just because YOU disliked the league, others could have still really liked it, right? must be a really hard concept to grasp that others might have a different opinion...

Also: Stop this condescending "i look on their characters and everything is clear"-shit. Your characters have been hidden since ive first recognized you as the annoyance you are on this forum... how about you unhide yours? eh?

e: you dont have to, im totally not interested. but pls see the irony here. given that you dont understand the concept of "different opinions" though... well forget it...

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Clownkrieger wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

I find it so ridiculous people here actually defend this league "It was fun" when it is so evident it's a lot more disliked than many of its predecessors.

Then again, I just click on character tab then things become clear.

*s*

You still dont understand that just because YOU disliked the league, others could have really liked it, right? must be a really hard concept to grasp that others might have a different opinion...

Also: Stop this condescending "i look on their characters and everything is clear"-shit. Your characters have been hidden since ive first recognized you as the annoyance you are on this forum... how about you unhide yours? eh?

e: you dont have to, im totally not interested. but pls see the irony here. given that you dont understand the concept of "different opinions" though... well forget it...

Timeless jewels numbers. Copying builds. People have whispered me asking me about my setup on ninja. A league later, my gear cost 100ex more. No more of that.

Yeah, they can like it for all they want, I still find it ridiculous anyway. Asked why they like it? "i like it". "i like killing mobs". OK

Now, MANY (including me) were specific about what is disliked, what needs changing, reasons why, not that it would affect alc and go players anyway. Response? "Then go play something else" "it is broken, i support nerfing end game more" Constructive reason?

I'm happy you are annoyed.

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LiMA6 wrote:

I find it so ridiculous people here actually defend this league "It was fun" when it is so evident it's a lot more disliked than many of its predecessors.

Then again, I just click on character tab then things become clear.

This has to be one of the most narrow-minded, empathy-less and ignorant posts I've read in here in quite a while.

"If what I precieve as the majority dislikes the league, it's ridiculous that someone else likes it".

Are you for real?

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Phrazz wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

I find it so ridiculous people here actually defend this league "It was fun" when it is so evident it's a lot more disliked than many of its predecessors.

Then again, I just click on character tab then things become clear.

This has to be one of the most narrow-minded, empathy-less and ignorant posts I've read in here in quite a while.

"If what I precieve as the majority dislikes the league, it's ridiculous that someone else likes it".

Are you for real?

This league is more disliked than its predecessors. There's no need to perceive anything here, it is a fact.

Yes I find it ridiculous -- none so far have given a detailed explanation and reasoning why it's been a fun league. Where's yours?

What else is ridiculous (in relation to character tab) is, if you aren't playing end-game, why are you calling to nerf endgame more? If they alc and go, why should it affect them? As one of them suggested to me: "Just alc and go"

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LiMA6 wrote:

Yes I find it ridiculous -- none so far have given a detailed explanation and reasoning why it's been a fun league. Where's yours?

I don't find it fun, hence I've quit playing this league. But if others find it fun, good for them. I'm happy for them. I wish I was in their shoes. Who am I to question someone else's fun?

On a world basis, the 'majority' finds Coca Cola better than Pepsi. Is it "ridiculous" in my eyes that someone finds Pepsi better? Absolutley not, because I know the world is bigger than me and my views, unlike you. If this game (and the world as a whole) would blindly follow the majority, because the minority doesn't matter, it would be a boring, cruel place.

PS: When it comes to the end game nerfs? I'm all for it. Beast-copying maps is, was and will always be dumb - and I'll defend that nerf till I die.

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Phrazz wrote:

PS: When it comes to the end game nerfs? I'm all for it. Beast-copying maps is, was and will always be dumb - and I'll defend that nerf till I die.

To add on that: They nerfed the overly easy acessibility of some overly rewarding strategies that didnt happen in empty space, but in a game with an "economy".

Endgame is still as "hard" as it has been, since some people always insist that they want to play it cause it is "the hardest content in the game" (as if it had been hard when you had a coordinated group for it... this is so laughable).

All this boils down to is "muh rewards got nefed". jeez.

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Phrazz wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

Yes I find it ridiculous -- none so far have given a detailed explanation and reasoning why it's been a fun league. Where's yours?

I don't find it fun, hence I've quit playing this league. But if others find it fun, good for them. I'm happy for them. I wish I was in their shoes. Who am I to question someone else's fun?

On a world basis, the 'majority' finds Coca Cola better than Pepsi. Is it "ridiculous" in my eyes that someone finds Pepsi better? Absolutley not, because I know the world is bigger than me and my views, unlike you. If this game (and the world as a whole) would blindly follow the majority, because the minority doesn't matter, it would be a boring, cruel place.

PS: When it comes to the end game nerfs? I'm all for it. Beast-copying maps is, was and will always be dumb - and I'll defend that nerf till I die.

My *subjective opinion*:
So my stance on crafting is, harvest league/ritual league crafting is actually overpowered. Do I support nerfing harvest? Yes. Beast-copying, even more so, I'm in agreement with you. Duplicating stuff is just too much. So for harvest crafting, you don't go nerfing it to the point it feels completely unrewarding to play (not in terms of currency). I have good faith they realize this. For people who dislike playing harvest and call for their nerf, just continue doing your alc and go, don't come and tell us to alc and go also.

I shall give you a better example than cola vs pepsi. Beggar buys cheese sandwich from EateryX every day. Most customers eat steak. One day, they changed the steak recipe and got rid of salt. Why? because salt is too tasty. Customers complain, beggar says: "stop complaining, you should just eat plain sandwich, im all in for this change." This is what I find ridiculous, you have no entitled opinion on something you do not know. Just shut the hell up and continue eating your sandwich. When asked what they like about EateryX? WELL... "i like to eat, i like my plain sandwiches". At least the counterpart's able to say, I enjoyed the salt. It was tasty fun. Are we clear now?

My biggest issue with the league isn't even about harvest.

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LiMA6 wrote:

I shall give you a better example than cola vs pepsi. Beggar buys cheese sandwich from EateryX every day. Most customers eat steak. One day, they changed the steak recipe and got rid of salt. Why? because salt is too tasty. Customers complain, beggar says: "stop complaining, you should just eat plain sandwich, im all in for this change." This is what I find ridiculous, you have no entitled opinion on something you do not know. Just shut the hell up and continue eating your sandwich. Are we clear now?

Your arrogance is beyond compare. Im out. Keep having your little sissy fit or tantrum or how you want to call it.

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Clownkrieger wrote:

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LiMA6 wrote:

I shall give you a better example than cola vs pepsi. Beggar buys cheese sandwich from EateryX every day. Most customers eat steak. One day, they changed the steak recipe and got rid of salt. Why? because salt is too tasty. Customers complain, beggar says: "stop complaining, you should just eat plain sandwich, im all in for this change." This is what I find ridiculous, you have no entitled opinion on something you do not know. Just shut the hell up and continue eating your sandwich. Are we clear now?

Your arrogance is beyond compare. Im out. Keep having your little sissy fit or tantrum or how you want to call it.

I am arrogant, not going to deny it, which is important not. And you are out of counter-arguments.

Some people really think countering everything with ad hominems is arguing... noted.