All my friends (which to be fair, is not a lot), all laughed and said "WTF is that" and never touched this league mechanic when we played. Also I'm not even going to go into the issues with this party play and non-shared seed drops, lmao.
It's not only complex, but highly tedious. Should have had a 2d editor to place & connect all the pylons, etc.
I agree that it can be tedious, especially in the beginning, trying to set up your garden. But once you're done, it stays there for the whole league. It's like leveling a new character, the story can be quite tedious too, depending on the build, but you know there's a lot of fun waiting for you once it's done.
But people that "never touched" it, aren't giving it a real chance. As I said: People that don't WANT to learn? Of COURSE it will seem complex. That's a no-brainer.
someone who plays the game as much as you do will like anything GGG puts out good or bad. was there even any league you didnt like and get 40/40 in?
I do not play games that I consider bad. I have very limited time and I am gone the moment I don't like this game any more. The reason I post here - admittedly somewhat aggressively - is because I have seen what happens if the developers of a game cater to the "game is too hard/complex" crowd. It killed WoW for me. I still fondly remember the four horsemen in classic. I like complexity, I like new challanges, I like change. And I mostly see ppl complaining that prefer a rather straight forward play style. They somehow hate having to figure out new stuff or anthing that is more complex than mashing some buttons.
With each new challenge league (most of them at least) moving into the core PoE's code size has gotten way out of control and with the huge code complexity comes the increased additional danger that one wrong line of code can cause this software "house of cards" to come crashing down. Simply put GGG can't keep adding previous challenge league mechanics to the core game anymore. Performance gets worse and worse with each and every new league as a result of continuing to do that.
Chris and company are painfully aware of this and I've watched podcasts where Chris said that GGG will need to place a cap on the total league mechanics that are in the core game. He stopped short of stating how GGG would do that (because they currently have no specific plan) but maybe have a maximum cap of 10 or 12 and rotate which ones are being used for that league. PoE is most definitely a gigantic octopus of code and as such it doesn't take much (a single null pointer for example) to fubar everything. Code stability and performance has become a huge problem (was/is always with performance) and code bloat from too many league mechanics in the core is a serious problem that GGG must resolve soon (or yesterday).
EZ to cap. They already did it. Remember legacy with the league stones? 3 max per map. And better yet ones you want instead of bullshit you don't like.
They knew their game was bloatware way back then. Yet kept adding. Big reason I dont play anymore much. I call Gen 3+ tedium.
Git R Dun!
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Crafted today (self farmed seeds, bought only awakener orbs and bases, total amount spent for shopping: less than 20ex):
Come again with bad league? I guess I will be deep delving with veeeery nice gear for the first time this weekend.
Maybe we should rename to use-your-brain-league?
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nobody gives a shit about your crafts. strange thing that you think that this "crafting" requires any brains, its not some rocket science or nuclear physics or higher maths. probably you think its somewhat challanging because it uses your full brain capacity. relax, its very simple, every gear piece, depending on goals, has primitive 5-6 steps algorithm for desired outcome, all the rest is more or less gambling. very primitive and probably can be done by well trained chimpanzee. you've reached this bar, congratulations.
its an arpg game and most players, as steam charts have shown, dont enjoy picking, planting, harvesting seeds, spamming craft button, building infrastructure, hanging around in discord or poedb or other external sites. this is not an arpg style gameplay.
I fully agree, its not rocket science. Just using your brain for a couple of minutes. Too much for most of the harvest-is-bad-legue-me-want-to-smash-things crowd.
How about showing everyone here that you are really smart and still don't like the league. Give us the primitive 5-6 step algorithm for efficiently crafting the gloves.
" Come again with bad league? I guess I will be deep delving with veeeery nice gear for the first time this weekend."
...just use your imagination and try to think of some reasons even though you crafted this godlike juicy gear players are not amused by harvest, your "come again with bad league" is very ironic in that regard...
It never ceases to amaze me that some players are willing to overlook everything if they are able to get GG gear. I have news to those people.....you are in the big minority, the rest of us like to have fun when we are gaming.
While I personally don't think the garden mechanic landed, you have to keep in mind that there is a satisfaction to making great gear yourself so the actual crafting part can be enjoying enough to outweigh the gardening part (especially once your garden is already set up which is most of the annoying part).
