Harvest could be worst league ever?

i hope the devs have understood that they need to provide alternative gameplay if they are doing "crafting" leagues. fightning process in the garden is a joke, theres no bonus gameplay compared to standard for those who dont like to plant & harvest seeds, spam "craft" button or hanging around in discord trading some craft. what a boring sh**

i quit this league like 5 times, going in and out, there are two reasons i can play this league at least for some time:

- diablo 3 season is even worse
- at least you can sell seeds in bulk, so, basically, its guaranteed profit so you can buy scarabs etc. and make some juiced maps, thats it.
so if i've rated this league 1/10 at first, but i think its more like 2/10.
dead game
bring back 3.13
Last edited by Tainted_Fate#2799 on Aug 7, 2020, 6:58:57 AM
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
i hope the devs have understood that they need to provide alternative gameplay if they are doing "crafting" leagues. fightning process in the garden is a joke, theres no bonus gameplay compared to standard for those who dont like to plant & harvest seeds, spam "craft" button or hanging around in discord trading some craft. what a boring sh**

i quit this league like 5 times, going in and out, there are two reasons i can play this league at least for some time:

- diablo 3 season is even worse
- at least you can sell seeds in bulk, so, basically, its guaranteed profit so you can buy scarabs etc. and make some juiced maps, thats it.
so if i've rated this league 1/10 at first, but i think its more like 2/10.


problem is game itself didnt updated " itemizations looting and stats " game need fresh blood not new leagues right now they have to change netire in game diversity by stats items etc at poe 2 or will be to late
They need to realize every league the performance gets worse for even moderate modern rigs.

Last league was a farce with delirium performance.

That and POE needs a storage tank for data, it's double and triple that of MMOs I play.
With each new challenge league (most of them at least) moving into the core PoE's code size has gotten way out of control and with the huge code complexity comes the increased additional danger that one wrong line of code can cause this software "house of cards" to come crashing down. Simply put GGG can't keep adding previous challenge league mechanics to the core game anymore. Performance gets worse and worse with each and every new league as a result of continuing to do that.

Chris and company are painfully aware of this and I've watched podcasts where Chris said that GGG will need to place a cap on the total league mechanics that are in the core game. He stopped short of stating how GGG would do that (because they currently have no specific plan) but maybe have a maximum cap of 10 or 12 and rotate which ones are being used for that league. PoE is most definitely a gigantic octopus of code and as such it doesn't take much (a single null pointer for example) to fubar everything. Code stability and performance has become a huge problem (was/is always with performance) and code bloat from too many league mechanics in the core is a serious problem that GGG must resolve soon (or yesterday).
"You've got to grind, grind, grind at that grindstone..."
Necessity may be the mother of invention, but poor QoP in PoE is the father of frustration.

The perfect solution to fix Trade Chat:
www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2247070
Crafted today (self farmed seeds, bought only awakener orbs and bases, total amount spent for shopping: less than 20ex):



Come again with bad league? I guess I will be deep delving with veeeery nice gear for the first time this weekend.

Maybe we should rename to use-your-brain-league?
Last edited by Faendris#5470 on Aug 7, 2020, 2:52:30 PM
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Faendris wrote:
Crafted today (self farmed seeds, bought only awakener orbs and bases, total amount spent for shopping: less than 20ex):



Come again with bad league? I guess I will be deep delving with veeeery nice gear for the first time this weekend.

Maybe we should rename to use-your-brain-league?

one more forum [censored] for my forum ignore script.

nobody gives a shit about your crafts. strange thing that you think that this "crafting" requires any brains, its not some rocket science or nuclear physics or higher maths. probably you think its somewhat challanging because it uses your full brain capacity. relax, its very simple, every gear piece, depending on goals, has primitive 5-6 steps algorithm for desired outcome, all the rest is more or less gambling. very primitive and probably can be done by well trained chimpanzee. you've reached this bar, congratulations.

its an arpg game and most players, as steam charts have shown, dont enjoy picking, planting, harvesting seeds, spamming craft button, building infrastructure, hanging around in discord or poedb or other external sites. this is not an arpg style gameplay.

dead game
bring back 3.13
Last edited by Tainted_Fate#2799 on Aug 7, 2020, 3:36:21 PM
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
Crafted today (self farmed seeds, bought only awakener orbs and bases, total amount spent for shopping: less than 20ex):



Come again with bad league? I guess I will be deep delving with veeeery nice gear for the first time this weekend.

Maybe we should rename to use-your-brain-league?

one more forum [censored] for my forum ignore script.

nobody gives a shit about your crafts. strange thing that you think that this "crafting" requires any brains, its not some rocket science or nuclear physics or higher maths. probably you think its somewhat challanging because it uses your full brain capacity. relax, its very simple, every gear piece, depending on goals, has primitive 5-6 steps algorithm for desired outcome, all the rest is more or less gambling. very primitive and probably can be done by well trained chimpanzee. you've reached this bar, congratulations.

its an arpg game and most players, as steam charts have shown, dont enjoy picking, planting, harvesting seeds, spamming craft button, building infrastructure, hanging around in discord or poedb or other external sites. this is not an arpg style gameplay.



I fully agree, its not rocket science. Just using your brain for a couple of minutes. Too much for most of the harvest-is-bad-legue-me-want-to-smash-things crowd.

How about showing everyone here that you are really smart and still don't like the league. Give us the primitive 5-6 step algorithm for efficiently crafting the gloves.

Good crafting mechanic does not equal good league in an action rpg. Never should have been a league by itself. Should have just been a new mechanic and/or part of a league. The actual league is Standard with better crafting, minus the already attained gear/loot, and worse drop rates.

Not to mention, even if it goes core, the god tier crafting will not continue. As has already been stated by Chris.
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
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DS_Deadman wrote:
Good crafting mechanic does not equal good league in an action rpg. Never should have been a league by itself. Should have just been a new mechanic and/or part of a league. The actual league is Standard with better crafting, minus the already attained gear/loot, and worse drop rates.

Not to mention, even if it goes core, the god tier crafting will not continue. As has already been stated by Chris.


What is a good league, then? For me it is a fresh start and trying to figure out the most broken build with the most powerful gear to do crazy stuff like 20 second maps, instakilling sirus, fractured map farming etc. The way to reach that goal is a bit different in each league - but always enjoyable. It is OK to have braindead leagues like delirium, legion or metamorph if every now and then there is a league where one actually has to figure out some things. Linke synthesis and harvest.
someone who plays the game as much as you do will like anything GGG puts out good or bad. was there even any league you didnt like and get 40/40 in?
Last edited by Lyutsifer665#1671 on Aug 7, 2020, 4:42:36 PM

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