Exp Loss is freaking unbalanced

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True_Apathy wrote:

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Necrogue wrote:

I'm all for exp penalty but have an idea to toss out there. What if on merciless for example for 1 death you lose 10% but if you die again within a half hour of that, you lose 20%.

That would be really dumb.

But why? It's what you want, right? To be punished for dying, that great and wonderful sin in Video Games.

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Nagisawa wrote:

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True_Apathy wrote:

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Necrogue wrote:

I'm all for exp penalty but have an idea to toss out there. What if on merciless for example for 1 death you lose 10% but if you die again within a half hour of that, you lose 20%.

That would be really dumb.

But why? It's what you want, right? To be punished for dying, that great and wonderful sin in Video Games.

We all die to stupid shit once in a while such as Desync's and more stupid shit the penalty is already great as it is like you would flood the forum to even more crying then usual.

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True_Apathy wrote:

We all die to stupid shit once in a while such as Desync's and more stupid shit the penalty is already great as it is like you would flood the forum to even more crying then usual.

Not really, people would stop playing and paying for the game. As it is now, we're getting a tiny slice of 'ragequitters' vying for attention. The ones you really need to worry about are the ones that stop playing the game and say nothing.

I'll use this topic to give my feedback about the xp penalty. As i wrote in another topic i think the penalty is not well implemented and balanced for the game like it is now. Best act map is level 63, the maps 70+ are rares and we got a level cap 100. So why having a flat 15% penalty for every level? I can understand if the act game ends at 80 with maps 85+ so you will still get a good exp even if you die and lose 15%. But right now is not balanced for me, something like losing % with a level range would be more balanced, example (merci diff)

55-70: 15%
71-80: 10%
81-90: 5%
91-100: 1%

Those are just examples, i would need to calculate the exp needed for levels to be more accurate.

Don't know if they ever wrote about this but i just can think since it's an OP the devs don't want that we focus on leveling 1 char (since hitting the cap looks almost impossible) and they prefer having us leveling different chars builds skills etc to have more feedback for the final release.

what ^ said!

As a diamond supporter once said: Play HC and then there is no death penalty.

QQ's everywhere, makes me a sad panda lol

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Josephoenix wrote:

As a diamond supporter once said: Play HC and then there is no death penalty.

QQ's everywhere, makes me a sad panda lol

Don't be a sad panda mate. It's bad for you.

People choose Default for a reason ;)

As many people once said: at higher levels, default becomes like HC, or you won't progress.

Which should not happen...

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strongbong wrote:

Did you never reach lvl 70 yourself to see how much exp you lose in 1 death? I play for 10 hours exp grind, then die 2 times to desync(GGG's fault) and lose all that exp gained?

Why do I lose 10 hours because of your problems?

Pls explain how you will adress this problem.

Yup its obviously GGG's fault that you are bad. 10hours of EXP grind at level 70 should net you several level ups. It takes about 10-15 minutes to make 15% at level 70.

I died 3 times in the last 3 days at level 85 and still hit 86 the next day! The deaths were infinitely frustrating, but I am not going to blame GGG even if one of them was nasty desync... I still could have avoided it.

In summation. Get good, l2p, all that jazz. A death at level 85 for me was about 3-4 hours of solid grinding. If a death for you is 10 hours at level 70 just uninstall the game and do everyone a favor.

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Undon3 wrote:

As many people once said: at higher levels, default becomes like HC, or you won't progress.

Which should not happen...

I completely disagree. 100%

At higher levels, default becomes more and more like HC, as it should be. Players who cannot progress due to constant death do not deserve to climb higher. I enjoy the current design, even though I play a character that is prone to death.

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Bluntexile wrote:

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Which part of BETA did u not understand ? Go whine somewhere else and get other games nerfed you sick whiny kid.

ha the first hardcore loser, euh srry gamer pops up :)

I never asked to nerf anything, just TO FIX what's broken ;)

Time to get a shower and get the dirt out of your eyes mr hardcore gamer /kiss

lmao, just because you don't like it does not mean its broken. It seems to be working perfectly, which is the exact opposite of broken...

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anubite wrote:

The lesson of death is not learned if there is no punishment. In-fact, players will use death to transport themselves favorably and do other toxic things when death has no meaning. The only thing you learn from cheap death is that you can exploit it as a mechanic.

QFT. You want to see broken? Remove the death penalty, then you would have a broken game.

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Crovaxx wrote:

Such hostility... give the guy a break ;)

Anyways, for me this isnt an issue if they fix desync problems. I like to have the penality there to invoke a sense of danger and fear of dieing.
But to be honest, the desync problems in this game is pretty ridiculous. They really need to fix this ASAP.

Sorry, zero sympathy for whiny brats.

Such hostility... give the guy a break ;)

Anyways, for me this isnt an issue if they fix desync problems. I like to have the penality there to invoke a sense of danger and fear of dieing.
But to be honest, the desync problems in this game is pretty ridiculous. They really need to fix this ASAP.

Why shouldn't playing the hardest difficulty at the highest levels not be hard, even on default?

The death penalty actually has kept me playing back in closed beta, if I didn't hit that brick wall at a 100 mph on my first character and have to start a new one I wouldn't be here today, I would have gotten bored a long time ago