Can we stop pretending that Path of Exile is free to play?

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Boem wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

P.S Guess in the end Boem cared enough to report my posts.

Nice assumption bro, but you need to go far out of line before i would even be tempted to bring in an authority to setle the matter.

My dislike for the moderators on these forum boards isn't exactly hidden so i simply don't use them.

As far as my recollection goes i reported one person in my seven years on these boards and it was in off-topic in the trump thread for a grose personal attack.

Peace,

-Boem-

the mods are not waiting on the wayside for you summon them

what kind of complex do you have?

Here we go again!!!

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Real_Funk wrote:

the mods are not waiting on the wayside for you summon them

what kind of complex do you have?

Are you daft? Honest question.

His message get's deleted and he accuses me and me saying "nope i don't report people" is me having a complex.

Your funk is messed up if you wanna butt in without grasping the context of his and my post.

And the mods do stand on the wayside for reports if they infringe on the
guide-lines, i don't know why his post got deleted but apparently some mod thought it was out of line.

Peace,

-Boem-

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ajo wrote:

What happened? Did he assume your gender?

?_? we all know there is only one gender online.

Peace,

-Boem-

The game is f2p, pal
I dont see anywhere me being charged to play the game, i go to their website,i click download, install it, and in 2 hours im on maps level
WHAT IS EXACTLY YOUR ISSUE? That stash tabs cost money?

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Stanelis1 wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

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Stanelis1 wrote:

It doesn't change the simple fact that after some point you just need to buy stashes.

Of course you could play POE without buying stash tabs after some point ...

there, case closed
game is f2p and u can play it for free, download install and play

All arguments will be stopped when POE2 releases, which then, they will no longer call it free to play game, as it is false advertising.

I answered a few days ago but after reading a lot of horrible posts I want to be the voice of reason. I am also older so I have the benefit of pc gaming history to understand things.

Free to play is a marketing strategy that came into existence in the early 2000's. Why did it develop? There were a few low budget titles that came out FTP and were mildly successful, but t was some games that had started out fairly strong but were not selling at all that started the conversion. Everquest, LOTR online etc. were on life support and needed new players but discounting wasn't working. It was basically a last chance effort before the studio shut down the games. Those early games gated a lot of the content and people would incrementally pay for what they wanted. They also had major issues melding the free to play model with the people who had bought the game at retail price.

With the mild success of the above games and the obvious difficulty of changing to a free to play mid-stream other companies started from the get go with the free to play model especially when competing against Blizzard games, but they soon realized that they needed to provide a good enough base game (before the paid add-ons) to stimulate people to play.

Anyway, Chris Wilson was fortunate to have seen other games struggle with FTP for 5 years or so. It is the inconvenience that he correctly assumed people would pay for without bitching too much (present thread aside). To the OP, you have a complete misunderstanding of Pay to Win and the Free to Play business model. GGG is the best company I have seen in this regard.

So, instead of complaining about the game I suggest you look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself whether it is reasonable for a developer to make some money? If you say yes, then really study what GGG provides and the almost non-existent gating of content. That Chris Wilson has not made POE pay to play with a zealous player base many who would gladly fork out cash is pretty amazing really.

Since alot of people are arguing about "win" conditions for PoE and there is no defined "win" let me reiterate the LITERAL definition of p2w is "any advantage you cannot obtain within a game without spending actual money". That includes stash tabs in this case, because they provide three advantages you cannot get within the game without paying money.

First advantage: stacking normally non-stackable items such as fossils, resonators, breachstones and fragments.

Second Advantage: They allow you to list trades without a third party tool.

Third Advantage: this one is arguably the least important, but extra storage space is by definition an advantage.

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mina97 wrote:

All arguments will be stopped when POE2 releases, which then, they will no longer call it free to play game, as it is false advertising.

the more core leagues they add the further they move from f2p regardless it's a fact.. imagine if synthesis actually went core.