Can we stop pretending that Path of Exile is free to play?

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Boem wrote:

I'm glad you all think patting one another on the back is of importance to the subject, to me it isn't and i don't particularly care unless you bring something to the table thats relevant.

Right Shakespeare.

You care enough to reply, and I did bring you something to table...I thought your only problem is writing something logical while replying...Beside the ,
"Peace - Boem - " , but it seems you cannot work your brain around reading either..Guess it's because you are itching just to reply to the mean bad man who thinks you are nothing...You show me in the end...YOU SHOW THEM ALL.

I don't need to start a club with anyone, because I am just here to express my opinion. And while you do get behind of a wall of "I don't care" , I don't...I do care about others opinions and posts.

I even care about reading your posts (a waste but what can I do, the forum is full of your essenceless stories)...But you aren't saying anything...

Most people use google translate because they don't know much english, they are wasting literally they're time with your posts, because you keep blabbering around the subject , with no direction or sense to the finality of your thoughts, just using big words in a trash "poet's" way. You repet the same ideea over and over with other words.

Look at this for example "definition creep are of no importance to me." , you should write texts for Blizzard...The are going around doing same shitty back wording that look fancy and people might think you actually know what you are saying, but you can just rephrase that as "I don't care about your ignorance".

Oups forgot.

Piss.

-Your truly thankfully, unintentionally and un-obliged , defender of the feeble minded and protector of the wording, yours truly Vendetta. P.S see I can do it to-

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Vendetta wrote:

Look at this for example "definition creep are of no importance to me." , you should write texts for Blizzard...The are going around doing same shitty back wording that look fancy and people might think you actually know what you are saying, but you can just rephrase that as "I don't care about your ignorance".

Nope because they aren't the same thing.

I both think your ignorant and i think your applying concept creep to the definitions of F2P to move the goal post.

It's either ignorance or bad intentions. And since i like to apply good-faith on other people i move forward with ignorance rather then ill will.

As for the rest of your post, you danced around my differentiation of the terms so again provided nothing relevant to the subject.
I simply thought a circle jerk of like minded people waranted a response of how irrelevant "disliking Boem" is to the subject of this thread.

It's a childlike diversion of the arguments i and others have made. Something i would expect on a school yard filled with pubescent teens.

I don't care that you dislike me, but i do care that it distracts from the topic and the thread.
I would rather read something relevant on the topic that might convince or pursuide me of my position.
But nothing yet, so far.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Aynix wrote:

Ofc they have. They are playing this game pretty much as a full-time job, spending couple bucks to make their time better is obvious choice.
That doesnt change the fact they barely pick up anything and they barely trade anything. They dont bother hoarding some useless rare items worth couple chaos.

They have stashes full of double influenced items and crafting relevant gear.

It doesn't change the simple fact that after some point you just need to buy stashes. Because wile it is indeed true you don't pick up most gear, you still pick up a lot of fragments along the way. This league, organs alone takes me a whole stash.

Or point me toward someone who made it to red maps without buying any stash, I doubt you d find many players in that category because they d have long stopped the game due to how much micromanagement is involved (the game IS designed to clutter your inventory, even when you only pick up the bare minimum). Currency alone cannot be fully stacked without the currency stash tabs and I don't see how you would manage the current atlas without the map stash, due to the fact you need to run region specific maps to advance it.

Sorry if this question has already been given somewhere in thread, but I got bored reading through all the arguments.

How does one win in PoE? And against who?

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Stanelis1 wrote:

It doesn't change the simple fact that after some point you just need to buy stashes.

It doesnt change the simple fact that this game is free and you dont NEED to pay for anything.

I wont point you just one player who made it into red maps with 4 stashes. I will point you to custom league made by ProjectPT (and I think other streamer later on). That was league without ANY stah tabs. Not even single stash tab. Guess what? People killed both Shaper and Elder in that league.

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Aynix wrote:

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Stanelis1 wrote:

It doesn't change the simple fact that after some point you just need to buy stashes.

It doesnt change the simple fact that this game is free and you dont NEED to pay for anything.

I wont point you just one player who made it into red maps with 4 stashes. I will point you to custom league made by ProjectPT (and I think other streamer later on). That was league without ANY stah tabs. Not even single stash tab. Guess what? People killed both Shaper and Elder in that league.

May I ask whether you re just dense or pretend you don't understand what I m saying ? Of course you could play POE without buying stash tabs after some point if you were a masochist, but what I m saying is that is is highly unlikely due to how bad it feels. Just as you could simply decide to only eat raw noodles each day, it is unlikely you d do it.

The fact that some streamers created a custom league without stashes as a challenge attest of that fact. In fact, we shouldn't even talk about streamers because POE isn't a hobby for them, it is their job (and you re usually not inclined to do the same things whether an activity is a hobby or a job).

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Aynix wrote:

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Stanelis1 wrote:

It doesn't change the simple fact that after some point you just need to buy stashes.

It doesnt change the simple fact that this game is free and you dont NEED to pay for anything.

I wont point you just one player who made it into red maps with 4 stashes. I will point you to custom league made by ProjectPT (and I think other streamer later on). That was league without ANY stah tabs. Not even single stash tab. Guess what? People killed both Shaper and Elder in that league.

I was actually consideringing bringing up this argument of the private league's that have a "no stash" option, but thought it wasn't needed since the definition of "F2P" is a pretty obvious and static one.

I think pointing out the people that say PoE is not "F2P" are simply not utilizing the term correctly is a good enough argument in itself.

So far the arguments are mostly related to "wealth" "competition" and "ease of play" all of which don't contradict PoE remains "F2P".

No content is behind a paywall.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

Look at this for example "definition creep are of no importance to me." , you should write texts for Blizzard...The are going around doing same shitty back wording that look fancy and people might think you actually know what you are saying, but you can just rephrase that as "I don't care about your ignorance".

Nope because they aren't the same thing.

I both think your ignorant and i think your applying concept creep to the definitions of F2P to move the goal post.

It's either ignorance or bad intentions. And since i like to apply good-faith on other people i move forward with ignorance rather then ill will.

As for the rest of your post, you danced around my differentiation of the terms so again provided nothing relevant to the subject.
I simply thought a circle jerk of like minded people waranted a response of how irrelevant "disliking Boem" is to the subject of this thread.

It's a childlike diversion of the arguments i and others have made. Something i would expect on a school yard filled with pubescent teens.

I don't care that you dislike me, but i do care that it distracts from the topic and the thread.
I would rather read something relevant on the topic that might convince or pursuide me of my position.
But nothing yet, so far.

Peace,

-Boem-

Christ...I won't even bother.


Piss.

-Vendetta-

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Stanelis1 wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

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Stanelis1 wrote:

It doesn't change the simple fact that after some point you just need to buy stashes.

It doesnt change the simple fact that this game is free and you dont NEED to pay for anything.

I wont point you just one player who made it into red maps with 4 stashes. I will point you to custom league made by ProjectPT (and I think other streamer later on). That was league without ANY stah tabs. Not even single stash tab. Guess what? People killed both Shaper and Elder in that league.

May I ask whether you re just dense or pretend you don't understand what I m saying ? Of course you could play POE without buying stash tabs after some point if you were a masochist, but what I m saying is that is is highly unlikely due to how bad it feels. Just as you could simply decide to only eat raw noodles each day, it is unlikely you d do it.

The fact that some streamers created a custom league without stashes as a challenge attest of that fact. In fact, we shouldn't even talk about streamers because POE isn't a hobby for them, it is their job (and you re usually not inclined to do the same things whether an activity is a hobby or a job).

And what makes you think this makes PoE "not F2P"?

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Aynix wrote:

And what makes you think this makes PoE "not F2P"?

The fact that it isn't..


When GGG will implement at least 1 trade tab for everyone free, then we will agree that every aspect of the game is free.

Right now everyone that does not buy QOL are gated behind everyone else.

Yea the game itself and the maps are for everyone...

But we all know that a game is not only that...