Can we stop pretending that Path of Exile is free to play?

The point of the free to play model is that you can pay what you feel the game is worth to you personally. It isn't about just being free. I have bought a couple packs in this game because I have played it a ton and they deserve some of my money for it. I would feel really guilty if I never spent a dime on this game considering how much I have played it.


I recently tried a different F2P game that I got bored of after 5 hours and didn't spend a dime on it.

Having some things that you would really like to have but aren't required cost money isn't really a big deal.

Free to play , means you are not forced to pay money to login into the game and to have access to all content. So , yes . POE is free to play

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_Kromatik_ wrote:

poe isnt f2p u must buy a pc for play.

without a doubt, one of the best replies i've ever seen :-)

OP you're "technically" correct, but you will get flamed here. Having dozens of tabs is an enormous advantage in speed and efficiency over f2p players. Speed and efficiency are the most important things in a trade league.

On the forums you will be met by the same casual players who gave you the "play whatever build you like, even if it's at 1% the power of the top builds".

You could play some shit ass build with 4 tabs, but understand that you're playing a completely different game than someone who is clearing maps in under a minute, and has almost no downtime between bc tabs.

I have a lot of tabs and I consider them mandatory(I have no problem with paying for them btw, because I enjoy the game immensely).

As a new player it's obvious from the design that this game is Path of Stash Tabs. That's not all bad and it's still pretty fun, but if you don't drop about $20 minimum on stash tabs the game starts to be unbearable to play. You are constantly flooded with new loot that you don't even know how to categorize, let alone how to organize, let alone what to keep and what to trash or what to sell. If you don't have tab space then you are just left in a constant conundrum of trying to decide what to keep and what to sell and spending an inordinate amount of time and energy organizing and re-organizing your bag space. It's clearly by design, and even at $20 in tabs you still soon run into the same problem.

The game is pretty fun, though, so this money for tabs is like the price tag for PoE. PoE is not a f2p or mtx game imo, it is more like a trialware model where to properly use the product past a certain point you have to pay some money to unlock it.

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Boem wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

It is free to play. Just because you think its impossible to play the game without all those things doesnt make it true.

Even though it is...Even my friend that is poor had to go out of his way and invest in at least map tab / currency tab.


With just the initial tabs to have maps / currency , not to mention items for trade and so on was just too much.


Playing the game is indeed free but playing the game without those QOL's is just torture.

You start a guild, create other characters and invite them into your guild.

Then use the guild stash to transfer loot between characters and create mules.

As for the OP, people have pushed lvl 100 with accounts without any stuff on it and been very succesfull because it forces them to spend less time on items and sorting etc.

So just like you can say stash tabs are QoL an argument can be made that they slow you down in gameplay because you start hoarding the more space you have.

The basic premise is that you can play and enjoy all content in the game for free and that you cant buy game advantages in the shop. This still remains true to this day and that makes it F2P.

People arguing stash tabs QoL are like people arguing certain MTX reduce laag or make game-play more visible, just looking for straws to pull on in the absence of ever having played a real money-grab game.

Peace,

-Boem-

Man reading your posts it's like reading a Harvard diploma...Written in academical way and lacks any kind of sense.

You talk about F2P and enjoying content but you checked ways ( the guild stash thing) to cheat your end game and not buying a single tab...Then you talk about tabs actually slowing you down because of hoarding but you specify ways to make mules so you can around hoarding with even more wasted time from all the clicking and exiting the game...( this is just hypothetical, I can see your titles)

I do not know how, but I just think people reading your posts cannot see past some fancy words...or the "Peace -Boem-" thing like you are some kind of writer even though you have like 0 logic, just blabbering around fancy words.

If you're just a gamer who wants to play POE for around 50 hours and make a couple characters then yes it would be considered free to play. It's unlikely that you'll need more than the 4 free tabs for this. Many gamers fall into this category.

If you want to spend 1000+ or 10000+ hours playing POE, then no, it is not free to play. You'll definitely need things like currency/map tab and premium tab(s) to sell stuff.

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Vendetta wrote:

Man reading your posts it's like reading a Harvard diploma...Written in academical way and lacks any kind of sense.

You talk about F2P and enjoying content but you checked ways ( the guild stash thing) to cheat your end game and not buying a single tab...Then you talk about tabs actually slowing you down because of hoarding but you specify ways to make mules so you can around hoarding with even more wasted time from all the clicking and exiting the game...( this is just hypothetical, I can see your titles)

I do not know how, but I just think people reading your posts cannot see past some fancy words...or the "Peace -Boem-" thing like you are some kind of writer even though you have like 0 logic, just blabbering around fancy words.

lol... this was funny. I mean this is accurate as hell but it's just funny someone finally blurted it out.

what content you can't play unless you pay?
what gear you can't get unless you pay?
what chars/skills you can't get unless you pay?

you can do endgame with 4 tabs. who says you need to keep all gear you find?
i have around 14 tabs, and i dont keep almost any gear. i dont need shit for other chars.

and currency - you can trade all the chroms/fusing/jewels/alts to chaos or ex to save space.

maps? 2 tabs of maps are more than enough. i know, coz i used regular tabs instead of the map tab until GGG fixed the "convert maps" button.

doable.

dont confuse laziness with p2w.

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Ofirdr78 wrote:

what content you can't play unless you pay?
what gear you can't get unless you pay?
what chars/skills you can't get unless you pay?

you can do endgame with 4 tabs. who says you need to keep all gear you find?
i have around 14 tabs, and i dont keep almost any gear. i dont need shit for other chars.

and currency - you can trade all the chroms/fusing/jewels/alts to chaos or ex to save space.

maps? 2 tabs of maps are more than enough. i know, coz i used regular tabs instead of the map tab until GGG fixed the "convert maps" button.

doable.

dont confuse laziness with p2w.

As I said before, no arguments will work. Simply because they refuse to admit they are wrong.
Only someone who never played this game "to the fullest" will say more stash tabs will make you richer. Every plater, at some point, realize that hoarding shit in this game is actually the OPPOSITE of what you should do to become rich.
Check streams of those who are considered "pr0 players" and see how many things they pick up in maps. Not counting raw currency, they barely pick anything.