What nugiyen is doing right now is amazing
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this cleave isnt real melee is ridiculous....sounds like every time someone is doing something to prove its possible some ppl shout "yeah, he is doing this or that or not using this blabla" thats lame...really.
on the other side im against the "alt-f4 in HC" usage...thats pretty lame, too....even if there are desyncs and other problems etc...it looks a bit like cheating just my 2 cents btw props to skarrmania for hist post, that was funny to read and the exactly the truth Last edited by theblackfrog#2086 on Mar 6, 2013, 9:22:47 PM
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" I respect pretty much anyone who manages to earn a living doing something they enjoy. Sadly most people are too jelly to be able to feel the same. Last edited by MonstaMunch#6519 on Mar 6, 2013, 9:24:25 PM
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" K Thanks. Now I know. I know who Kripp is, I seen him all over the place, and that other guy...the french guy with the annoying voice...thaine or something...I only know him as "the guy who got hacked by putting his password in on the stream". Last edited by Faction3#7366 on Mar 6, 2013, 9:30:31 PM
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" No I want multiple good melee builds, especially ones that don't rely on increased range. For that we'll need more melee AoE skills. It's good that GGG's working on them. " I also find what he's doing impressive, simply because of how hard melee is. It's cool that he's found a way around that (funnily enough, by turning a typically melee skill into a ranged one). That said, what more do you want to discuss about his build? I think the other discussion is more fruitful than just everyone going "yay, how impressive". " A skill doesn't have to be a basic auto-attack skill to be "real" melee. It doesn't even have to have no support gems. The only consideration is range. What Nugiyen has shown is that elemental cleave with increased range can work. That still doesn't say anything about physical cleave, cleave without increased range, or any of the other melee skill builds. |
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OK. I just have to reply to all the people saying "he's not actually melee"
I will give you that he's using an extended melee range approach, but its very much still melee. Lets assume we're in medieval times getting ready for battle. You have a shield and a short sword. Your buddy next to you has a lance. Are you going to say to him, "man must be nice that you get to sit off and range and fight completely safe while I have to be in the middle of the fight". No... you are both melee. Any skill that requires a melee weapon in order to function is by GGG's definition melee. The ranges of these abilities differ greatly and it can be argued that there is a problem with that, but lets get it straight that those are still melee abilities. An more alternative definitions of melee Are you still holding your weapon at the end of your attack? Congrats you're melee. ign : ironicobject / ironobject Last edited by ironicobject#0960 on Mar 6, 2013, 9:35:48 PM
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" Okay, let's not use the word melee then. How about "skills that have 0 range are currently not viable in PoE, and GGG should continue to work on improving them". Is that better? Er, since technically every melee skill has a range at least equal to the weapon it uses, that ought to be "skills that have the same range as the melee weapon they use". But you get the idea. Last edited by redrach#3578 on Mar 6, 2013, 9:38:53 PM
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"There's a good chance that whatever new AoE skill that comes out will likely work with increased range and be considered a range attack by people calling half of the melee skills ranged, unless you want a super small AoE that doesn't extend beyond how far your character can naturally reach. |
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