What nugiyen is doing right now is amazing

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VolcanoElixir wrote:
Can Viper Strike truly be considered Melee though? Sure you're hitting something with your poker but then you can just run and let the DoT do damage while you're safely far away. That's being a coward, which is not in the spirit of being a man.


This is defined as 'Mobile Melee', a term I saw a dev use once regarding viper strike tagging. I quite like it.

Also, plenty of men have advocated hit-and-run tactics when the situation calls for it. A few examples: Sun Tzu, for a start. Miyamoto Musashi, for another.

You might have heard of these men.

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Greig20 wrote:
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Sacada66 wrote:
Wait a minute is that really what HC players do? exit the game in blink of an eye so they dont die? how is that in spirit of the game not HC at all.


This is alot harder then people make it out to be, its a split second decision, do you either try to click escape/exit, or click a potion, or try to run? You have to do it so quickly and get lucky doing it, that its not as fail safe as people think.


Im just saying it just doesnt feel like the right thing to do its cheap way of saving yourself when you deserved to die, what do you have to prove saying ur good when u split second exit game to survive, i just cant understand the mentality being a gamer i would feel like i have cheated the game, thats just my opinon.
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Jim_Fear wrote:
I didn't get to see any of the stream- when I checked he was offline. I'm somewhat confused though.

Here is someone playing melee, showing that is viable, yet people are nitpicking exactly HOW he is doing it?

I've seen the complaints that "melee isn't viable." all the time. Now someone is doing just that- surviving-and there are complaints?




The argument is basically "cleave isn't melee, we're talking about REAL melee."
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Charan wrote:
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VolcanoElixir wrote:
Can Viper Strike truly be considered Melee though? Sure you're hitting something with your poker but then you can just run and let the DoT do damage while you're safely far away. That's being a coward, which is not in the spirit of being a man.


This is defined as 'Mobile Melee', a term I saw a dev use once regarding viper strike tagging. I quite like it.

Also, plenty of men have advocated hit-and-run tactics when the situation calls for it. A few examples: Sun Tzu, for a start. Miyamoto Musashi, for another.

You might have heard of these men.

I think most people on this forum, judging by their distaste for most melee abilities and ranged attacks get their war tactics from Ron Swanson or their dads.
ITT people grasping at straws in an attempt to troll
That's no Real Scotsman.

I say good on nugi for showing off the power of Cleave. Elecleave is easily the highest damage in the game (paging VictorDoom) and while not completely safe, it melts faces.
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Charan wrote:


Man, you are one unreasonable, stubborn fellow. Everyone dies eventually. He was doing extremely well.

He was doing what people said can't be done.

Can't you take that jaded spoon out of your mouth for just enough time to give credit where it's due?

Seriously.


You should probably know that he was also like this on GW2G. He has serious attitude issues that even the moderators over there found difficult to deal with. Y'know, typical "find-things-to-complain-about" behaviour.

I think nugi's choice was quite stellar. Nobody would have thought to amplify the range of cleave to ridiculous levels and draw all damage from elemental nodes. Maybe Inva, since he's our de-facto weird build guy.
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VolcanoElixir wrote:

I think most people on this forum, judging by their distaste for most melee abilities and ranged attacks get their war tactics from Ron Swanson or their dads.


Perhaps. I invoked Musashi specifically because not only is he famous for his tactical ability, he was a swordsman. And he was absolutely loathed in his lifetime for his tendency to do underhanded things like lure people into bottlenecks, throw rocks, and, worst of all, THROWING his short sword when everyone, *everyone* knew that thing was supposed to be for ritual disembowelment only!

The gall of the bastard.
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
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Lyralei wrote:
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Charan wrote:


Man, you are one unreasonable, stubborn fellow. Everyone dies eventually. He was doing extremely well.

He was doing what people said can't be done.

Can't you take that jaded spoon out of your mouth for just enough time to give credit where it's due?

Seriously.


You should probably know that he was also like this on GW2G. He has serious attitude issues that even the moderators over there found difficult to deal with. Y'know, typical "find-things-to-complain-about" behaviour.

I think nugi's choice was quite stellar. Nobody would have thought to amplify the range of cleave to ridiculous levels and draw all damage from elemental nodes. Maybe Inva, since he's our de-facto weird build guy.


I recall someone saying that before here, possibly you, but I am a big fan of clean slates. If people were to judge me on how I've behaved on other boards, in other games, I'd be the world's worst choice for moderator. ;)


Pneuma, if what you've said about cleave's range is true, then I may retract my belief that it's true melee after all. I still love the skill and think nugiyen kicked serious arse with it, but that range jump makes it more like a sort of 'energy wave' than a true representation of the weapon's swinging arc.

...Hm. Damn you, GGG. :(
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period.
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Lyralei wrote:
I think nugi's choice was quite stellar. Nobody would have thought to amplify the range of cleave to ridiculous levels and draw all damage from elemental nodes. Maybe Inva, since he's our de-facto weird build guy.

Elecleave (including the aoe) has been around for ages. It's probably the oldest faceroll build that still exists in the game. Back in the day you would just pick up Avatar of Fire, and aoe passives were larger/more plentiful as well.

It wasn't until the massive elemental damage boosting patch (0.9.6?) that elemental attacks in general started to blow physical out of the water. This discrepancy has still not been recovered.

/poehistorian

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