What nugiyen is doing right now is amazing

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Altadoc wrote:
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Charan wrote:
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Pinchyskree wrote:

Not impressive at all.

Using a skill with that range and trying to pass it off as melee to sound hard.

He played so much his body shakes, sacrificing health for a game, sad.


Cleave is still using the weapon's natural range. It is melee. You seem to have some sour graps going on there, but so be it.

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Cleave does not use a weapon's natural range, in fact it is multiple times melee weapon range.

This, by definition, is NOT melee. Nugiyens achievements are impressive, but he is not doing it as a melee character.

see this post for official developer confirmation: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/230356#p1982393

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I actually retracted that statement several pages back and thus apologise for the sour grapes comment. I still personally view cleave as a melee skill but acknowledge it's using a range beyond the basic weapon's arc.
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bhavv wrote:

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Make a macro for alt-f4 and stick it on the side buttons, very easy to press in a fraction of the time it would take to press alt-f4.

Cheating made even easier! No need for uber reflexes.


You are highly confused. Cheating is doing something outside the rules of the game. Who makes the rules of the game? The developers of course.

Alt-f4 is within both the rules and the spirit of POE because the developers allow it.

In D3 for example you cannot benefit from alt-f4 because the server keeps you logged in for 20 seconds, no matter what.

Since POE does not have this mechanic, the developers clearly allow the use of alt-f4.

You, and others may consider this cheating, but last time I looked, you are not a developer, so anything you have to say about the rules of the game are simply your opinion and not based on anything more substantial than that.

For myself, I will continue to use alt-f3, because it is a valid escape and within the rules of the game.

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bhavv wrote:


Just buy something like this:



Make a macro for alt-f4 and stick it on the side buttons, very easy to press in a fraction of the time it would take to press alt-f4.

Cheating made even easier! No need for uber reflexes.


*checks a few pages back*

Oh wait, you were the one with a warning. So, unless I'm mistaken, you are the one at wrong here, for even posting in this thread. Not exactly the best position to be in to be attacking, huh?

That's right, leave this thread and don't come back. You've lost anyway, Chris will never remove Alt-f4 from this game. Shush, go away, troll.

On topic: To those who said what nugiyen does is standard and you could do it if you played a lot, blablabla. A lot of people play at least as much hours per day as those guys do. Yet, who's on top? ;)
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Daxtreme wrote:


That's right, leave this thread and don't come back. You've lost anyway, Chris will never remove Alt-f4 from this game. Shush, go away, troll.


LOLOLOLOL

One cannot simply 'remove' alt-f4 from a game, and yes, using alt f4 to escape deaths to me is definitely cheating.

Even when I stopped posting in this thread, the discussion didnt change away from melee and alt-f4ing, everyone kept on discussing those same topics so I dont see why I still cant as well.
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Altadoc wrote:
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bhavv wrote:

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Make a macro for alt-f4 and stick it on the side buttons, very easy to press in a fraction of the time it would take to press alt-f4.

Cheating made even easier! No need for uber reflexes.


You are highly confused. Cheating is doing something outside the rules of the game. Who makes the rules of the game? The developers of course.

Alt-f4 is within both the rules and the spirit of POE because the developers allow it.

In D3 for example you cannot benefit from alt-f4 because the server keeps you logged in for 20 seconds, no matter what.

Since POE does not have this mechanic, the developers clearly allow the use of alt-f4.

You, and others may consider this cheating, but last time I looked, you are not a developer, so anything you have to say about the rules of the game are simply your opinion and not based on anything more substantial than that.

For myself, I will continue to use alt-f3, because it is a valid escape and within the rules of the game.

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I guess it's a matter of opinion but to me escaping death by alt + f4 is lame, in fact at that point can't you just play default league? In harcore you die once but if you exit the game every time you would otherwise die doesn't it defeat the purpose?
I could understand it only in the case of technical difficulties like lag or desync.
Cleave is AoE not melee.


And Alt+F4 is only bad mannered play not cheating.

Cheating would be if you write a program that scans the pointer for HP/ES via Readprocessmemory and calls the logoutfunction via fast/stdcall or terminates PoE and closes the sockets to the PoE server.

But this kind of cheating is also undetectable because it doesn't modify the client.

The reason D3 had such a barrier was you couldn't make a difference between a script, a keyboard marco and a regular logout.


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bhavv wrote:
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Daxtreme wrote:


That's right, leave this thread and don't come back. You've lost anyway, Chris will never remove Alt-f4 from this game. Shush, go away, troll.


LOLOLOLOL

One cannot simply 'remove' alt-f4 from a game, and yes, using alt f4 to escape deaths to me is definitely cheating.


I don't know if it's cheating per se. But it is most definitely a chicken shit move and @IMO@ any person that uses it indiscriminately(stuck,something broken or borked ok. But as an escape tool no way) is not very hardcore in my books lol. Notice I said IMO for any haters ^^ I have an absolute riot when the streamers do it. Laff, yes sir, you are truly a monster of hardcore play :)
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'Cheating' may have been the wrong word to use, but its definitely unfair play.

I constantly hear people on this forum that play on hardcore saying 'do not die', 'if you die, you suck' etc, but then they are mostly all using alt-f4 to escape death, something which I will never do because it is genuinely lame.

If you actually cant avoid death without using alt-f4, then imo you should just play on default league, not on hardcore.
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Hilbert wrote:
Cleave is AoE not melee.

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Your statement is both factually correct and misleading.

You do get AoE melee skills. The all time classic is the D2 barbarian Whirlwind skill. This was both melee and AoE. It hit all enemies in a 360 degree arc, within the hit range of the melee weapon.

Melee and AoE are not mutually exclusive.

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If you are going to use Alt + F4, you might as well play softcore, since you are not hardcore at all.
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