Pure Breachstone exp. gain is broken must be nerfed!

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

but otherwise have not pointed out how this new incentive to group is detrimental to the game and why it warrants a nerf.

So, if somebody would come up with the suggestion : "Hey, let's add a 500% xp bonus for people playing in a party"

why would it be bad for the game, it gives an incentive to playing in parties after all, amiright ?



Those pure breachstones are obvioulsy not just an incentive to group ...

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Fruz wrote:

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

but otherwise have not pointed out how this new incentive to group is detrimental to the game and why it warrants a nerf.

So, if somebody would come up with the suggestion : "Hey, let's add a 500% xp bonus for people playing in a party"

why would it be bad for the game, it gives an incentive to playing in parties after all, amiright ?



Those pure breachstones are obvioulsy not just an incentive to group ...

That's literally what I'm asking, how does an increase in max level characters detrimentally affect your game?

I mean you could at least go with it takes people away from other potential parties.

If they added a ridiculously common divination card ( set of 3 let's say ) that would give a level 23 arc with 30% quality ....
I don't play arc, so it would not affect my SSF experience directly.

So, should I just think that it's absolutely fine for the game to have such a stupid thing because it does not affect me directly at the moment ?

No.
Of course not.


Stop with the "it does not affect you so stop complaining" BS argument please.

There are clear implications of pure breachstones being such a thing ( such high profit for such little risk ), and it's definitely not healthy for the game, short or long term.

It's not BS, it's not even a why are you mad at other people's fun.

It's a what is your justification?

Feeling encouraged to group sounds like a good thing. Making the jaunt to 100 a little easier for those willing to pay extra doesn't sound bad to me - even if I felt comfortable dropping currency it's still not enough to motivate me to push for 100, and yet I don't feel the need to insult the people who desire to do so.

If anything, it's allowed people who normally can't experience higher content a means to earn income that normally wouldn't be accessible to them.

I could sell the breachstones I have in my inventory but I might actually want to run them or maybe even host a run. I probably won't but I like having that option. I don't have nearly enough to make it to 100 and I know I don't enjoy the game enough to breeze through maps continuously to fund it. And the reality is that the people who consistently hit 100 would do so regardless anyway.

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As for a 3 div card set that would grant a 23 arc with 30% qual.... as someone who's farmed multiple onis and still slowly indirectly farming for a first headhunter, I can attest from first hand experience that a made up div card challenge is a poor example.

I mean a mirror is one of the most valuable items in game yet most of us only ever see them drop in other people's streams.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

fact: not one thing i said has anything to do with "more people in the same bracket," yet you keep strawmanning this as if it's a magic retort.

The OP said that pure breachstones make hitting 100 too easy.

The counter arguement is that too easy is an over-exaggeration

lolz

that's not a "counter arguement." that's not even an argument. that's just an opinion.

FACT: pure breachstones provide an xp amount that's vastly higher than any other sources.

argument: this makes it far out of line with the rest of the game and it should be nerfed accordingly.

opinion: i think they're silly.

I don't care about "other people's fun".
I care about the game and what it is becoming.
people don't really know themselves what would be actually 'fun' to them in such a context, most people around here want free shit, that's it.
( Then they'd likely be bored if everything they asked was granted to them, and they would stop playing the game, that would be 'fun', right ? /s )


Again, those stones do not make the grind a LITTLE easier for Dominus sake.
It makes it significantly easier, that is a huge difference.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

If anything, it's allowed people who normally can't experience higher content a means to earn income that normally wouldn't be accessible to them.

Nonsense.
Nobody needs to be level 100 to experience the content.


The example was just illustrating ridiculous power creep/boost at a cheap cost.
I'm not quite sure how you jumped from that to a mirror ....

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robmafia wrote:

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

fact: not one thing i said has anything to do with "more people in the same bracket," yet you keep strawmanning this as if it's a magic retort.

The OP said that pure breachstones make hitting 100 too easy.

The counter arguement is that too easy is an over-exaggeration

lolz

that's not a "counter arguement." that's not even an argument. that's just an opinion.

FACT: pure breachstones provide an xp amount that's vastly higher than any other sources.

argument: this makes it far out of line with the rest of the game and it should be nerfed accordingly.

opinion: i think they're silly.

And that's what I thought. I know why there's more xp in a pure breachstone, but do you? I also can achieve similar results investing in t16s with a lot of extra micromanaging of sextants influence and map rolling. Breachstones are way more group friendly and are consistent.

That's why I find it funny when people complain - there was a complaint on GD for a while about syndicate killing group play, but really it just got people to move from poorjoy rotas for a better gain at a much higher cost. Frankly I was surprised that anyone would do poorjoy rotas but even in the brief moments I spend in 820 checking what people are doing I'll still see a poorjoys in the sea of breachstone rotas and people searching for rooms and other cheevos.

They gave people an incentive to group, and as always there are folks that find reason to complain about it.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

And that's what I thought. I know why there's more xp in a pure breachstone, but do you? I also can achieve similar results investing in t16s with a lot of extra micromanaging of sextants influence and map rolling.

no, you can't.

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robmafia wrote:

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

And that's what I thought. I know why there's more xp in a pure breachstone, but do you? I also can achieve similar results investing in t16s with a lot of extra micromanaging of sextants influence and map rolling.

no, you can't.

no,indeed he can't.
evidence:

this 250% incresed exp. gain is the reason I stand behind this nerf.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

I also can achieve similar results investing in t16s with a lot of extra micromanaging of sextants influence and map rolling.

lulz, WHATEVER