People are overreacting

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arknath wrote:
As Tarke said in his youtube reflection over Tencent buying GGG. It is the PoE comminity that will mess up this, not the sale in itself. If people react by making up Doom stuff on forums/reddit/youtube it could lead to ppl no longer buying supporter packs then there is less money to make content -> people start complaining more and blaming Tencent. Tencent then sees lower numbers which again makes the risk waaaay higher that they will interfere. Evil spiral that can only lead to bad things.



I mean that's about the gist of it. Look though... a saavy businessman who is connected with his support base would've smelled this response from a mile away. Chris and what was/is GGG are protected AFAIK. The future of the game not so much.

If you jump in a fire you should feel the heat.
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HOW can we be overreacting when EIGHTY PERCENT of GGG was just bought out????
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IMSilver wrote:
HOW can we be overreacting when EIGHTY PERCENT of GGG was just bought out????


It's all just numbers and paper that represent time. I guess optimistic nihilism is the new flavor.
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DarkNRG wrote:
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SeCKSEgai wrote:
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Shabob wrote:
This really doesn't bother me at all.

I've spent the last 18 years of adult life supporting large corporations by purchasing their products. I really don't give a shit who I'm buying from so long as the product is up to my standard. If GGG keep producing a game that holds my interest every league, then I'll keep playing. If their MTX is quality, then I'll keep buying it.

If you're worried about evil overlords taking over humanity, then become a f'ing monk and really stick it to them.


While I would add a few additional caveats, I would agree that at the end of the day you're ultimately looking to get the most for your money as a consumer. It's one thing when you boycott a company over a philosophical belief. It's another to fail to recognize that money is going to have its influence.

People are so eager to take this "moral" high ground against these major corporations but probably don't realize just how much influence they have. All the while the cries of the sky is falling permeate the air despite nothing actually even changing.

I'm sure that when I was younger I would have thought a lot more idealistically in naivete. As I've gotten older practically tends to dominate.


Some of us do understand the power of the consumer, that is exactly why you see people speaking about and considering yanking the bills this is standing on. The problem then becomes those that simply don't give a shit either way... It's rough to deny yourself a thing and possible enjoyment when the majority will plod along like nothing changed.

Maybe at the end of the day it hasn't. Maybe it has. Possibility and perspective are a mother fucker.


But, I mean. If you're protesting Tencent itself and using the power of the consumer to do it here, are you also boycotting everything else they have their hand in? Do you use discord where Tencent is invested there? Do you play LoL? Do you play any ubisoft titles, now that tencent has invested there? Do you use spotify now that tencent has invested there? Do you use snapchat now that tencent has invested there?

If you are one of those people who uses your consumer power/choice to ensure nothing ever goes to companies like tencent via any medium, then props to you, seriously.. respect for standing up for your beliefs. But if you use any of the above or any of the 1000s of things tencent has invested in and are now complaining here, it sounds like hypocrisy to me.

~Myth
I don't Myth, I've walked away from numerous games, products and people in my life over matters of principle. I see no reason to draw arbitrary lines in the sand.

I promise you 100% there is nothing connected to them that I use... except atm this forum to shiv them.

I appreciate the back pat but I'm never really looking for that.


Edit: the more they and companies like them grow the harder it will be for me assuredly. At some point I'm going to be an old man standing on a tiny island playing with sticks. Or a collection saved over nearly 30 odd years of gaming before shit went all f2p and early access when the idea of after market money came from expansions not loot crates or this other shit.

Edit2: Eventually I will tag all my posts with "I survived the bastardization of gaming."
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Last edited by DarkNRG#0841 on May 22, 2018, 5:41:12 AM
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DarkNRG wrote:
I don't Myth, I've walked away from numerous games, products and people in my life over matters of principle. I see no reason to draw arbitrary lines in the sand.

I promise you 100% there is nothing connected to them that I use... except atm this forum to shiv them.

I appreciate the back pat but I'm never really looking for that.


Edit: the more they and companies like them grow the harder it will be for me assuredly. At some point I'm going to be an old man standing on a tiny island playing with sticks. Or a collection saved over nearly 30 odd years of gaming before shit went all f2p and early access when the idea of after market money came from expansions not loot crates or this other shit.

Edit2: Eventually I will tag all my posts with "I survived the bastardization of gaming."


Or did you?

Maybe one day you wake up and realize it was all a dream... a dream published by Tencent, which is your employer. Plot twist!
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Maybe it would be a better idea to wait for the chicken to breed the eggs, before you think about to eat fried eggs.
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DarkNRG wrote:
I don't Myth, I've walked away from numerous games, products and people in my life over matters of principle. I see no reason to draw arbitrary lines in the sand.

I promise you 100% there is nothing connected to them that I use... except atm this forum to shiv them.

I appreciate the back pat but I'm never really looking for that.


Edit: the more they and companies like them grow the harder it will be for me assuredly. At some point I'm going to be an old man standing on a tiny island playing with sticks. Or a collection saved over nearly 30 odd years of gaming before shit went all f2p and early access when the idea of after market money came from expansions not loot crates or this other shit.

Edit2: Eventually I will tag all my posts with "I survived the bastardization of gaming."

Then kindly sod off and stop making things bad for the rest of us who just want to continue enjoying video games. Spare me the hypocritical virtue signalling and put yourself in the place of the CEO who wants to improve so many things but realizes they can't rely on the support of a bunch of entitled babies who will choose to jump ship and view everything through jade-colored glasses than give *anything* the benefit of the doubt.
1337 21gn17ur3
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Xavathos wrote:
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DarkNRG wrote:
I don't Myth, I've walked away from numerous games, products and people in my life over matters of principle. I see no reason to draw arbitrary lines in the sand.

I promise you 100% there is nothing connected to them that I use... except atm this forum to shiv them.

I appreciate the back pat but I'm never really looking for that.


Edit: the more they and companies like them grow the harder it will be for me assuredly. At some point I'm going to be an old man standing on a tiny island playing with sticks. Or a collection saved over nearly 30 odd years of gaming before shit went all f2p and early access when the idea of after market money came from expansions not loot crates or this other shit.

Edit2: Eventually I will tag all my posts with "I survived the bastardization of gaming."


Or did you?

Maybe one day you wake up and realize it was all a dream... a dream published by Tencent, which is your employer. Plot twist!


I don't remember which pill I took, was it red or blue... send halp plz
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DarkNRG wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:
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DarkNRG wrote:
I don't Myth, I've walked away from numerous games, products and people in my life over matters of principle. I see no reason to draw arbitrary lines in the sand.

I promise you 100% there is nothing connected to them that I use... except atm this forum to shiv them.

I appreciate the back pat but I'm never really looking for that.


Edit: the more they and companies like them grow the harder it will be for me assuredly. At some point I'm going to be an old man standing on a tiny island playing with sticks. Or a collection saved over nearly 30 odd years of gaming before shit went all f2p and early access when the idea of after market money came from expansions not loot crates or this other shit.

Edit2: Eventually I will tag all my posts with "I survived the bastardization of gaming."


Or did you?

Maybe one day you wake up and realize it was all a dream... a dream published by Tencent, which is your employer. Plot twist!


I don't remember which pill I took, was it red or blue... send halp plz


Wait, those were the colours? Red and blue?? Oh.........

I need a.. just... uh... need to reach out to someone real quick.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.

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