Do people want this game as slow as Titan Quest?

I want interesting and challenging.

And jumping in a lambo steamrolling content isn't either.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Sexcalibure wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

The ideal speed is what is currently achieveable now.

People talk like everyone and their dog is doing T16 maps in 60 seconds.

No.. the minority should be able to do t16 map in 5-10 minutes.. its suppose to be the hardest content, nothing should be able to trivialize it

60sec just means that its too easy (powercreep too strong)

Then the majority will spend 15-30 minutes doing one map. See the issue?
I can't really imagine even the biggest snail in poe would find spending 15 to half an hour doing one map fun enjoyable or rewarding.

I would.

For reference... I wont start a map unless I have a half hour, or it's a map I can "afford to lose". No way taking my high tiers or the parent map to one I'm hoping to drop unless I have time to pop every chest, kill every monster and search the area twice over to make sure I didn't miss stuff.

That's just how I fly.

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Nephalim wrote:

I can't really imagine even the biggest snail in poe would find spending 15 to half an hour doing one map fun enjoyable or rewarding.

Then your imagination is sorely lacking. Not surprising, given this game tends to attract non-creative types with a strong inclination towards mathematics and economics.

Not that you need to imagine it. I'm right here. So's Shags. So are a bunch of people who post regularly.

And I KNOW I'm not the slowest PoE player around.

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The_Scourge wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

I can't really imagine even the biggest snail in poe would find spending 15 to half an hour doing one map fun enjoyable or rewarding.

Then your imagination is sorely lacking. Not surprising, given this game tends to attract non-creative types with a strong inclination towards mathematics and economics.

Not that you need to imagine it. I'm right here. So's Shags. So are a bunch of people who post regularly.

And I KNOW I'm not the slowest PoE player around.

Point taken, but what % of active population actually wants this and how much of the population would leave if the goal post moved from 60 seconds to 15 minutes to complete a t16 map?

In an attempt to be more creative and appease maybe the .01% of the population who would enjoy this snail pace game - Could GGG just run a duplicate league with these changes applied so both parties get their cake?

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The_Scourge wrote:

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

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The_Scourge wrote:

Some of you need to stop applying the word 'shitty' to slower games, which PLENTY of people play and enjoy. You don't like them? Fine; PoE as it is now is your game. But ease off on the elitism and condescension here. You don't really have a leg to stand on when the most famous game of skill and intellect in history is notoriously slow-paced. Condemning all slower paced games as 'shitty' just makes you look like ADHD-riddled speed junkies.

Stop.

"Some of them" are full-time traders, so they don't actually care whether PoE is an ARPG, RTS or a goddamn dating sim as long as the trading metagame isn't affected. More speed means less time wasted on things as pointless as story, running maps or killing mobs. Farming efficiency has never been higher, and the closer the game gets to "run on a straight line from point A to point B, open a reward chest at point B and use the exit portal" the better it is for them.

Labyrinth to me is like a side attraction that I don't want to visit; the entire non-trading ARPG gameplay is the same for them.

Irrelevant.

It's not though. Um. How do I go about this.

It depends on one's perception of what the game is about. PoE is currently divided into two parts - trading and killing mobs. Those whose main interest lies in trading will consider the ARPG part something that comes along with trading, not the other way around. Like a side dish. Whether the ARPG part is slow or not is irrelevant, what matters is how its efficiency scales with the trading game.

Example, if PoE speed was cut to a quarter of what it is now but the loot drop rates were increased by 10 000% and exp rates by 300%, you'd see a lot of people who're now dissing slow games have a sudden 180° turn with their opinion.

To me, chess is a shitty game. When it comes to any type PvP game, I want to win or lose. What I don't want to do is spend an hour or more on a simple game of memorization that human brain isn't created for.

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Nephalim wrote:

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The_Scourge wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

I can't really imagine even the biggest snail in poe would find spending 15 to half an hour doing one map fun enjoyable or rewarding.

Then your imagination is sorely lacking. Not surprising, given this game tends to attract non-creative types with a strong inclination towards mathematics and economics.

Not that you need to imagine it. I'm right here. So's Shags. So are a bunch of people who post regularly.

And I KNOW I'm not the slowest PoE player around.

Point taken, but what % of active population actually wants this and how much of the population would leave if the goal post moved from 60 seconds to 15 minutes to complete a t16 map?

In an attempt to be more creative and appease maybe the .01% of the population who would enjoy this snail pace game - Could GGG just run a duplicate league with these changes applied so both parties get their cake?

Going to leave instantly if they make everything slow again , no joke .

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Nephalim wrote:

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Sexcalibure wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

The ideal speed is what is currently achieveable now.

People talk like everyone and their dog is doing T16 maps in 60 seconds.

No.. the minority should be able to do t16 map in 5-10 minutes.. its suppose to be the hardest content, nothing should be able to trivialize it

60sec just means that its too easy (powercreep too strong)

Then the majority will spend 15-30 minutes doing one map. See the issue?
I can't really imagine even the biggest snail in poe would find spending 15 to half an hour doing one map fun enjoyable or rewarding.

No there is no issue there...

If you take 15-30min doing a t16 map its because you lack dps

You whether belong in lower tier or need to improve your damage

If you dont Enjoy taking 30min running a map, then run lower tiers

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Nephalim wrote:

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The_Scourge wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

I can't really imagine even the biggest snail in poe would find spending 15 to half an hour doing one map fun enjoyable or rewarding.

Then your imagination is sorely lacking. Not surprising, given this game tends to attract non-creative types with a strong inclination towards mathematics and economics.

Not that you need to imagine it. I'm right here. So's Shags. So are a bunch of people who post regularly.

And I KNOW I'm not the slowest PoE player around.

Point taken, but what % of active population actually wants this and how much of the population would leave if the goal post moved from 60 seconds to 15 minutes to complete a t16 map?

In an attempt to be more creative and appease maybe the .01% of the population who would enjoy this snail pace game - Could GGG just run a duplicate league with these changes applied so both parties get their cake?

Again, probably not financially viable.

And you better believe that's going to be my stock response from here on for things I'd love to see but haven't happened yet. It's just been too long to hold out for anything anymore.

I wish some bosses were slightly slower. It's weird having to look up a video or wiki information on a boss to know what to look out for, because if I don't do that I'll die on the first time and not have any freaking clue wtf hit me. I don't mean easier either, but that's probably what would happen if the game got made slower