youve trashed the game

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johnKeys wrote:

very true.

there are occasional sheer luck moments in trade like the 2 swords I got today for around 2 Chaos total, which made my Spectral Throw character feel extremely powerful.
or that 5-link with a really high life roll and good resists, someone was selling for 10 Chaos. was close to getting that when Abyss Depths RNG decided I can have my own 5-link.

but for the most part the "broken power creep"-tier items are beyond my reach. especially in Standard. even with a combined wealth of around 5 years playing the game.
speaking of Standard - I got some Shaper and Elder Rares from doing a few maps. all were comparable to or worse than the stuff in my "b/o 1 Chaos" tab.
the pool of mods on them seems to make the gap between "trash" and "godly" even bigger.

Cool story. /s

It's not about the time you spend playing Standard or the market, heck, it's not even about the RNGesus favour, it's solely about how much you hoard (especially since GGG quadrupled the drop rates for uniques).

"Broken power creep" items, like Atziri's Acuity or Reach of the Council were available to all, heck, even Rise of the Phoenix was (and still is a great legacy item) - you just had to work for them...

Really, it pays to hoard like there will be no tomorrow, and sure, at times, you'll see your investments nullify, like the value of Voll's Devotion, Mjollner or even Skyforth, but that doesn't always render the items truly useless, but solely harder to be used...

I am in no way anything more than your, casual n00b hoarder, and except a very few really lucky drops, I can't say that I farmed more that 25-30 pure EX in ~4000 hours played, but I spent maybe twice, or heck, let's go with three times the amount during the same time, due to me selling rarely items (hello hoarding), and mostly converting dropped/vendor converted currency for the difference...

And yes, I do own "decent" gear on my characters - plus enough stashed away for dozens or even a hundred others - (some would say even "great", albeit not "bonkers"), but I constantly "worked" for it, payed attention, and overpaid when I really wanted something - I have a very close to mirrorable pDPS Doryiani's Catalyst if only GGG wouldn't make further modifications that would affect it, and it was a great hunt to find it, not to mention the hassle of trading for it.

So my humble advice is to "man up" and start putting all the playtime towards certain goals, one of them could be perfecting a build, skill, item and skillplay wise for your journey to 100 or "beating all the end game". And start by playing, having "fun" no matter what, and just hoard. Hoard like never before, while taking from time to time the liberty to actually pay attention to what you amassed...

You'll be surprised by the experience, believe me...

PS: I also respect your stance on how you tend to play, and it seems to align with my own way of experiencing the game, but I don't think that anyone that played PoE for a few years, and regularly tested the leagues too, didn't get to comprehend that it will take exponentially longer to reach certain goals by going the hard route. You need to be hoarding or you need to efficiently "trade" if you want to "succeed", either will do as long as your investment and playtime are satisfactory...

(eta: this is re: johnkeys. the other post wasn't made at the time of typing)

i don't fully disagree with that, and i respect trying to play as ssf as possible, but i think the game's gotten much, much easier than ever before, so i disagree with that part.

but the shaper/elder items aren't going to typically be OP as DROPS, but as craftables.

vs the new uniques that are quite OP as drops (obv) and the abyssal jewels which are both.


the power creep (more like a blitz than creep, imo) is immense; between the shelders, uniques, jewels, and even some of the new skills (mirage archer seems to be quite broken and brings a return of shotgunning) - it just seems downright silly. i found harbinger league to be reallllly boring and easy, and they basically just gave us a pile of BFGs with this patch. some are into that, but i'd actually prefer a challenge to 'path of mindlessly nuke entire screens with a click... or just afk'

It's bad for both of us really: you are getting bored from nuking everything, so GGG crank up the pseudo-difficulty (more one-shots, more unavoidable damage, outright taking control from the player like in the Elder fight...) and frustrate me when I'm constantly dying to this, or just can't access that.

At the rate this is going, I'll probably stop playing before you do.

well, i already pretty much stopped. it's not like i quit, per se, but i just sit alt-tabbed and make an occasional trade on standard when someone messages me.

if the ship rights itself, i'll probably actually play. but the issue is that undoing power creep like this is... well, unlikely.

i was mostly into pvp, anyway (especially CTF). as you could probably guess, the pvp scene went from already pretty bad to... realllllly bad when this patch went up.

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johnKeys wrote:

I'm getting destroyed in story mode locations I had no troubles with previously.
and it will only get worse.

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theD4nk0wl wrote:

I.NO get over it the game is on its death bed at this point. Original poster is entirely right, Sharts is right. There is literally close to no point now. They just released open server diablo 2 but as the actual and only game. Except instead of zonfire you and your crew can use your orbs to roll up some dumb shit while the rest of us quit. I remember making an open server immuno pvp char, was fun for a week. Enjoy Path!

It's dead because people like you are quitting if anything it's thriving.

Hell everytime the game is on it's ''deathbed'' it's really not like google game is dying path of exile 999999 threads and game is still quite active for the most part.

With that being said a crew member used aprox 752 chaos orbs on a elder shaped item and he didn't get results the likely hood of you rolling good shit is pretty ''Low'' soooo that isn't going to fly.

took 12 shrieking zeal, which was awesome luck, but wtf is 700 chaos rolls? I thought u and ur crew were dripping in mirror gear.. Have you even seen the new prismatic jewl? Guardian ascendancy as just 1 stat out of 5 for a jewl slot. Some of the other rolls are ridiculous too. The real issue isn't even the items its how out of control the mechanics are getting because of this direction. I'm all for new stuff but the balance and gameplay are getting laughable. And regardless of the shit rep I even enjoy PvP in this game and this is gonna be second league play in a row where theres literally one build on ladder. Last league was ea zerphi 10k lifers, now we're gonna be filled balls deep with secondary damage, passes through frost walls, cant be avoided with projectile avoid volatile dead mining or poet pen procs. It's this type of carelessness that has been GGG's trend lately. Instead of staying true to unique build diversity every update pretends to be nerfs but continues to narrow the meta towards more or less the same shit. That doesn't stay fun for long.

this addon will cause a backlash in the future. enjoy the powerspike right now, but be prepared....

theres only 2 branching paths from this:

- crank up the difficulty (again) to make the game "hard" even for people with shaped-gear, nerf certain builds into the ground that benefit from jewels (new doomfletch will then have 50% ele dmg gained)

- continue with the absurdly strong items and become some sh*t-game like diablo3 or WoW where everyone has a trillion hp and dps and 200% crit.....


imo its not even about the perfectly rolled shaped items.
at lvl50 alrdy i was looking at some of the jewels and couldnt believe their stats. every build from now on will just stack up jewels...they drop like crazy, are worth spaming chaos on for actual results...like everybody is already using 5 crazy jewels in any character, whereas the shaped items are rare and expensive.
regardless, in theory shaped item also means that kaoms is BiS for most gear...so expect a nerf there or yet another increase in monster-difficulty /-damage to "balance" things out....

I LOVE abyss league. it's Incredibly epic and refreshing.

Simple solution to the balance concerns over elder/shaped items is to give these items durability of 3. The third time ANY character that is equipped with said item is defeated, then the item is destroyed. This will create a situation where a Durability 3 item will be worth 10000% more than a Durability 1. And by the time a Durability 1 item makes its way to the hands of some noob, he'll promptly lag out trying to do Uber Atziri and the item will be deleted from the server forever.