youve trashed the game

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BearCares wrote:

Simple solution to the balance concerns over elder/shaped items is to give these items durability of 3. The third time ANY character that is equipped with said item is defeated, then the item is destroyed. This will create a situation where a Durability 3 item will be worth 10000% more than a Durability 1. And by the time a Durability 1 item makes its way to the hands of some noob, he'll promptly lag out trying to do Uber Atziri and the item will be deleted from the server forever.

I believe you're suggesting that disconnects or hard computer crashes should be able to cause players to lose highly valuable items.

I'm not sure why that would be helpful.

got it for cheaps, there are plenty more out there

The Surrender, previously one of the most valuable shield uniques just got a little power-creep kick in the butt

one observation tho - something is happening to the shaper/elder item drop rates, from 2/map avg i got to 1/5maps today. is it going to be balanced around people who due-farm-but-not-kill elder? is this the way we should play this game?

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EnjoyTheJourney wrote:

I'm not sure why that would be helpful.

It would make softcore players use logout too. It's a significant point of division in the community, after all.

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sidtherat wrote:

got it for cheaps, there are plenty more out there

The Surrender, previously one of the most valuable shield uniques just got a little power-creep kick in the butt

one observation tho - something is happening to the shaper/elder item drop rates, from 2/map avg i got to 1/5maps today. is it going to be balanced around people who due-farm-but-not-kill elder? is this the way we should play this game?

The difference between a 23% chance to block shield vs a 30% chance to block shield is monumental. The surrender still beats that shield and kicks it's teeth in; the only advantage that shield has is barely more life and a res. Surrender still has a significantly higher block chance and significantly higher armor.

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PaoloPinkel wrote:

this addon will cause a backlash in the future. enjoy the powerspike right now, but be prepared....

theres only 2 branching paths from this:

- crank up the difficulty (again) to make the game "hard" even for people with shaped-gear, nerf certain builds into the ground that benefit from jewels (new doomfletch will then have 50% ele dmg gained)

- continue with the absurdly strong items and become some sh*t-game like diablo3 or WoW where everyone has a trillion hp and dps and 200% crit.....


imo its not even about the perfectly rolled shaped items.
at lvl50 alrdy i was looking at some of the jewels and couldnt believe their stats. every build from now on will just stack up jewels...they drop like crazy, are worth spaming chaos on for actual results...like everybody is already using 5 crazy jewels in any character, whereas the shaped items are rare and expensive.
regardless, in theory shaped item also means that kaoms is BiS for most gear...so expect a nerf there or yet another increase in monster-difficulty /-damage to "balance" things out....

when was difficulty ever REALLY increased before, though? since atziri/beyond, it's just been easy. there was mention of changing monster health/damage, but it was still... easy. i don't think the difficulty was ever realllllly changed. just some numbers, and they seemed insignificant, for intents and purposes.

and this has already been on the diablow path. tyrannical -> merciless. lab enchants. 6 ascendancies... -> 2 MORE ascendancies. defensive tiers have continually increased, from flat armor/es/eva to % to res and stats.

that's the problem, basically. it was already full of power creep and in EZ mode. this new shit just made it absurd. hurr durr, 8L helm/gloves, 150 edps jewels, and a chestpiece that grants invulnerability. gg!


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robmafia wrote:

when was difficulty ever REALLY increased before, though? since atziri/beyond, it's just been easy. there was mention of changing monster health/damage, but it was still... easy. i don't think the difficulty was ever realllllly changed. just some numbers, and they seemed insignificant, for intents and purposes.

Are we even playing the same game? Damn near everything in endgame is a (more often than not, untelegraphed) one-shot now, not just in boss fights, with the massive monster hp buffs it takes an order of magnitude longer to kill anything with what used to be considered decent gear, and the number of different stacking slow effects that can (and fairly often will) be applied simultaneously to players keeps growing with every patch.

perhaps we're not.

i played an oldskool summoner in harbinger. as in... 6L zombies. ES. no baron. an undying flesh talisman (+1 zombie).

ran through everything with no issues until i got bored. tanked t16 minotaur. it was easy.

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raics wrote:

It would make softcore players use logout too. It's a significant point of division in the community, after all.

Doesn't everyone who takes the experience grind seriously use it already? I know I do at least.
I don't think it should be possible but I rather push a button than lose hours/exalts worth of xp progression.
It's also a useful habit to keep in your muscle memory if you play both types of league.

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Zed_ wrote:

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raics wrote:

It would make softcore players use logout too. It's a significant point of division in the community, after all.

Doesn't everyone who takes the experience grind seriously use it already? I know I do at least.
I don't think it should be possible but I rather push a button than lose hours/exalts worth of xp progression.
It's also a useful habit to keep in your muscle memory if you play both types of league.

I was being sarcastic, but the common name exchange is 'softcore scrub' for 'logout tryhard', can't call someone that anymore if everyone logouts. And that's a problem.

I wouldn't say it like OP did, but elder items definitely feel too powerful, the power creep is huge.