Nonsupporters of GGG and "3.0/Harbinger Sucks"

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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muzein wrote:

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

Harbinger League is aka Fall of Oriath.

New content, new acts, etc, Harbinger is just icing.

Congratulations GGG, greatest ARPG of all time.

No, it's not. Harbinger league is completely separate from Fall of Oriath. It's its own thing. You can't lump Harbinger into FoO's new features and say it's good.

Its good. DAMN GOOD.

OK, so expand on that. What features from Harbinger League (NOT Fall of Oriath) are damn good? We've seen a lot of constructive criticism about why it's not great. This is your chance to weigh in with all your thoughts as to why Harbinger is great.

Harbinger (and Oriath in general) is great because I can easily skip it and get time doing other things.

However the LAB and Time-Released Bosses has officially become the main reasons I can't get into PoE anymore. They're not hard, they're not fun, but they are mandatory time-wasters for necessary progression. No thanks.

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muzein wrote:

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

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muzein wrote:

No, it's not. Harbinger league is completely separate from Fall of Oriath. It's its own thing. You can't lump Harbinger into FoO's new features and say it's good.

Its good. DAMN GOOD.

OK, so expand on that. What features from Harbinger League (NOT Fall of Oriath) are damn good? We've seen a lot of constructive criticism about why it's not great. This is your chance to weigh in with all your thoughts as to why Harbinger is great.

You forgot to mention that the feedback on why it's not good is promoted by spoiled entitled millennials.

3.0/Harbinger and the new supporter packs are fantastic. Best time especially for new players to join this amazing game.

Best time to join this game was 5 years ago when all the 'spoiled entitled millenials' were promoting shit D3 to get "fresh on the bandwagon", while us veterans knew PoE was the only real arpg worth putting time into.

PoE is still a solid game, I'll always be glad for the time I spent with it. It just continues to spiral down with a lack of excitement, appeal, or respect for people's time. And now it's being consolized.

Passing has never been easier.

I've given my feedback on the League:

regarding new currencies:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1963792/page/4#p14758529

regarding Harbingers:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1963792/page/3#p14757089


you still didn't articulate anything in your response, you just deflected with some attack against millennials in a pathetic attempt to invalidate or discredit a point of view other than your own (which you still have yet to express beyond "Damn good" and "fantastic")

there are lot of other ways to throw money in GGG's vault....

by the way, harbinger league and 3.0 are real jokes.

The league is kinda shite but I'm still having fun since 3.0 content is good.

This is a free to play game and that is it, support it with money don't make anyone better then others.

If people play the game, supporting it or not, even the ones that never have bought a single stash tab, they have the same right to come here and complain about anything.

Really, if supporter titles become this kind of elitism GGG will need to end with it, they weren't created to show superiority.

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k1rage wrote:

harbinger is pretty mediocre

I intend to continue to support GGG

I think they just put so much effort into 3.0 that the league diffident get a lot of work

Fortunately the 3.01 patch buffs up the Harbinger challenge of its minions quite a bit and that's more enjoyable. I have plenty of different creatures I can lay waste to with my CWC firestorm firetrapper Berserker (Rayburn the Incinerator). The rewards are still pretty sucky thought. GGG said the Harbinger drops would be better but I'm just not seeing much of an improvement.

I personally liked 3.0 as content expansion, was within my expectations (except for lack of new lines for player characters). Even maps feel a bit refreshed with the addition of new enemy types (even though no endgame updates were promised). Pantheon is OK, I was honestly afraid of more power creep, wasn't really the case. A bit older update, but the mtx tabs rework was FANTASTIC, much better UI, good job on that.

I am neutral towards harbringer since I don't really care about leagues that much anymore, unless they have something REALLY compelling; I just got my eyes mtx and that's it.

I was not happy with the balance changes, but oh well, life is life (pun intended).

Overall I am content with FoO, and I don't really get all this negativity.

P.S. Regarding no new maps and same endgame - people tend to forget that less than half of PoE players reach maps.