Reddit is Going Nuts Over Trade

Thanks for the feedback, everyone.

All I want is to preserve and enhance this amazing game. I'm still not convinced that an auction house would be beneficial, but I'm all ears.

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Bars wrote:

Nah, I always try to give a fair price.

i find that the hardest part of poe.


of course one can lookup prices for just jewelery on poe.trade if they do not manipulate them at the moment.

all other gear is too often just people who either don't sell for the listed price or throw items on the market for one alch because they just have one or two stash tabs reserved for trade.

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vio wrote:

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Bars wrote:

Nah, I always try to give a fair price.

i find that the hardest part of poe.


of course one can lookup prices for just jewelery on poe.trade if they do not manipulate them at the moment.

all other gear is too often just people who either don't sell for the listed price or throw items on the market for one alch because they just have one or two stash tabs reserved for trade.

It is difficult, especially for rare items. If it's unclear, I try to make a reasonable estimate. If no one messages me in a few days (for more niche or expensive items) or within a few hours (for more sought-after stuff), I gradually lower it until I sell it.

If I list something and get a message almost instantly, I know I got caught by an automated search and my price might be too low. I say 'give me 5 minutes', wait to see if I get spammed by other players (in which case I change the price) and sell it if I don't get spammed. This happens very rarely. I think it only happened twice this league.

Player interaction is a shitty meme noone believes in besides few selected most illuded whiteknights

"player joined area"
"trade accepted"
"ty"
"ty"
"player left area"

In hc you get thx gl ss

We are polite

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raxleberne wrote:

Player interaction is a shitty meme noone believes in besides few selected most illuded whiteknights

"player joined area"
"trade accepted"
"ty"
"ty"
"player left area"

i had quite nice discussions with some players after a trade, you just need to know how to communicate with your fellow players nicely.

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vio wrote:

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raxleberne wrote:

Player interaction is a shitty meme noone believes in besides few selected most illuded whiteknights

"player joined area"
"trade accepted"
"ty"
"ty"
"player left area"

i had quite nice discussions with some players after a trade, you just need to know how to communicate with your fellow players nicely.

in that context: cut that whiteknight shit already, nobody will read your whiny complaints if you do that.

Stay strong in your delusions pal, cherry-picked examples are valid arguments only for you and your whiteknight friends. Everyone else is tired of this shitty meme and wants to trade as fast as possible

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raxleberne wrote:

Player interaction is a shitty meme noone believes in besides few selected most illuded whiteknights

"player joined area"
"trade accepted"
"ty"
"ty"
"player left area"

this! time to fix this. I understand ppl who dont want to get out of their comfort zone but it is operationally flawed. Pls put it in your roadmap. thank you

Trade has issues for sure but what really concerns me are the number of people who simply don't respond to offers. It would be one thing if I got the 'player is afk' auto-notification, or even a 'dnd' message. But when I send multiple messages (sometimes just to see if I can piss the player off and get their attention) and there is no response or any of the aformentioned msgs, only 1 thing comes to mind: botting.

I'd really like to see public (trading) tabs finally implemented.
I pretty much always self-find since I can't be bothered looking things up and contacting someone.

The dangers of making trade too efficient are outlined in the OP. But you can deal with this by limiting discoverability, thus avoiding an auction house economy.
For instance if you remove indexing capability then people will visit your shop based on overall appeal, rather than the best price in the realm on one particular item. People will have a rough idea of the market value of common items, but a degree of variance will be tolerated due to convenience. Just like the real world the most successful shops will offer desirable items and fair prices to maintain their reputation.