Reddit is Going Nuts Over Trade

To sum this up:
"Maaan, its sooo annoying that no one answers my trade requests!" + "When someone offers me anything else than what my item is listed for, I don't even bother replying"

Watching the community perpetuating their own complaints in live-vision. Nice.

What do you think BUYOUT means it's the price you have to pay to get the item I'd like to see you in a supermarket with a fucking litre milk saying 50 cent come on I give you 25 this is no different

You are in my shop you pay my price if you want the item don't like it....shop somewhere else

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crystalwitch wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Bait and not answer or low driver scam is what I call it. Not sure what it's technical term is but if a store does it its fraud. An AH cant do it. Scammer would lose his ass because it would be bought instantly.

The AH equivalent would be setting the maximum auction length with a low starting price but a high buyout and then cancel the auction before the time runs out, banking on a rich, impatient person or someone who just didn't properly assess the listing.

This actually doesn't work in a healthy AH system.

Funny you raised this question.

Most AAA title games has a limitation and your listing is impossible to cancel ones there's an outstanding bid. You could only pull your items when there's no outstanding bid while forfeiting your initial listing fee.


But as long as there's a basic no pull once there's a bid (which many games already do btw in case you think this is some rocket science).

So yea smart game companies already regulate their AH house to prevent exactly what shady PoE trades do. Either by hefty non-refundable listing fee or doesn't allow pulling items with outstanding bid.

And since PoE doesn't use "money/gold/plat/rubies" as currency just implementing a simple no pull once bid rule will eliminate all current dirty poe trading frauds. But yea I would hate this if I was the one that's pull these type of shit off too. I understand how you feels.

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ventiman wrote:

What do you think BUYOUT means it's the price you have to pay to get the item I'd like to see you in a supermarket with a fucking litre milk saying 50 cent come on I give you 25 this is no diffrent

You are in my shop you pay my price if you want the item don't like it....shop somewhere else

Not a good analogy at all.

Facilitating easier trade improved everything in every society that ever lived.
What is easier trade is maybe debatable, but at least it should be something like :
I have these monies, you have that item that you listed for monies, i buy your item, you get monies.
Add a TAX to this transaction and you have a balanced trading system that improved lives of millions.

Even better yet, dont add a tax and instead of that ADD MORE CONTENT so the gear we get for cheap will let us do content that was impossible to do otherwise.

All excuses that GGG or fanboys offer are just that, excuses. Trade always benefits the economy, and easier trade always works better for the consumers.
If you are a seller, it works the same way. You do more trades and you actually have to work hard to be successful.
Here, you undercut prices and refuse sales so you can trick people to sell for cheap. GGG facilitates this by not giving any rates or mediation of any sort.

It has gotten pathetic and stale. Combined with other missteps lately, poe is losing ground fast.

I am not going through "This player is afk." anymore. Dont care, dont want it.

btw, lab sucks

Cheers

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BundesHeinz wrote:

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ventiman wrote:

What do you think BUYOUT means it's the price you have to pay to get the item I'd like to see you in a supermarket with a fucking litre milk saying 50 cent come on I give you 25 this is no diffrent

You are in my shop you pay my price if you want the item don't like it....shop somewhere else

Not a good analogy at all.

Yea his analogy is pretty retarded. I agree.

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Bars wrote:

I completely support this. I always try to give fair prices, never something outrageous, and lowballers make me angry. I can understand someone being a little short or thinking your price is a bit too high, but listing, say, a six-link at 8ex when the next cheapest is 9ex and getting something like 'hey, will you take this same chest five-linked plus a bunch of crap' or 'hey, can you sell it for 6 ex' is insulting.

but that's how haggling works? you're supposed to say: whaaat? siiiiiiix? this item is worth more than that!!!

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BundesHeinz wrote:

To sum this up:
"Maaan, its sooo annoying that no one answers my trade requests!" + "When someone offers me anything else than what my item is listed for, I don't even bother replying"

I can see you have some reading comprehension issues, so I'll try to be as simple as possible:

'Hi, I would like to buy your item at the listed price' =/= 'Hi, I would like to buy your item at a much lower price'.

Hope that cleared it out for you.


@Vio: I know, I just hate haggling and try to avoid ot at least minimize it as much as possible. I honestly prefer not to sell something than to give it to a haggler.

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Bars wrote:

I know, I just hate haggling and try to avoid ot at least minimize it as much as possible. I honestly prefer not to sell something than to give it to a haggler.

of yourse you would have to overprice your items like i do. makes some people furious but also has the nice side effect of people not bothering you too much.

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vio wrote:

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Bars wrote:

I know, I just hate haggling and try to avoid ot at least minimize it as much as possible. I honestly prefer not to sell something than to give it to a haggler.

of yourse you would have to overprice your items like i do. makes some people furious but also has the nice side effect of people not bothering you too much.

Nah, I always try to give a fair price. I ignore the lowballers, I try to be civil with the polite ones who are haggling within reason and I'm short and not too friendly with the impolite hagglers. Works for me.