Pay 2 Win Premium Tabs Features - why GGG lies

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greyspear wrote:

I'm not ignoring it, but don't I first need to have items that I can sell? Without them do I have nothing of value and thus the value doesn't come from having premium tabs, but from having those items.

It seems rather that you are jealous over the items that people hold in those tabs.


Why would I be jealous exactly? It's not like I don't have big ticket items:



So clearly I am doing fine with the four basic tabs, so please don't use "jealousy" as an argument.
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Last edited by Mannoth#4185 on Apr 2, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
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Mannoth wrote:
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greyspear wrote:

I'm not ignoring it, but don't I first need to have items that I can sell? Without them do I have nothing of value and thus the value doesn't come from having premium tabs, but from having those items.

It seems rather that you are jealous over the items that people hold in those tabs.


Why would I be jealous exactly? It's not like I don't have big ticket items:



So clearly I am doing fine with the four basic tabs, so please don't use "jealousy" as an argument.

Why? Because you obviusly don't have premium tabs. Why exactly this makes you jealous I don't know. I'd say it's a mistake of yours and you haven't realized it yet. Only you will know. With those four items are you definitely richer, better protected and deal more damage than any new player who bought themselves hundreds of premium tabs. So it obviously cannot be Pay2Win.
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greyspear wrote:
Why exactly this makes you jealous I don't know.


That is not how burden of proof works mate, if you make a statement/claim you have to present the proof not me. You stated that I was jealous because of items stored in other peoples tabs and I presented you proof that in fact I get the items I want just fine on my own ergo not being jealous of items others have (though I didn't have to, because the burden of proof is on you and not me).

That is if you want to have a normal discussion, and not just talk about random stuff you think is right.
Feel free to actually read some of my responses in this thread before making claims/statements next time.
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Mannoth wrote:
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greyspear wrote:
Why exactly this makes you jealous I don't know.


That is not how burden of proof works mate, if you make a statement/claim you have to present the proof not me. You stated that I was jealous because of items stored in other peoples tabs and I presented you proof that in fact I get the items I want just fine on my own ergo not being jealous of items others have.

That is if you want to have a normal discussion, and not just talk about random stuff you think is right.
Feel free to actually read some of my responses in this thread before making claims/statements next time.

You are right. The burden is however not on me, but on you. You still have not shown how any new player wins by buying premium tabs.

I'd love to know. I've got money and I want to win. So how can I profit?

All I know is that at this point I already need to posses valuable items, at which point it surely doesn't matter any more if I buy or don't buy those tabs. The power comes from those items and not the tabs obviously.

If you could give me sort of a step-by-step description of how I do this then I'd be grateful. You'd also would have solved your burden of proof problem...
+1

They should have made this clear since the beginning if they wanted to do this.

Is ggg actively looking for money? (introduction currency tab?)
I will again point to at my posts in this thread, in which you will notice that I never stated that the current state of premium tabs is pay to win, and as such I have nothing to prove at all.

I however did point out that in your post as a proof of them not being pay to win you omitted the only thing that is being discussed in this whole thread, thus making a logical fallacy since in your "proof" of them not being pay to win you exclude the only thing that is being considered in this thread to begin with.
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Last edited by Mannoth#4185 on Apr 2, 2016, 10:22:32 AM
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Mannoth wrote:
I will again point to at my posts in this thread, in which you will notice that I never stated that the current state of premium tabs is pay to win, and as such I have nothing to prove at all.

I however did point out that in your post as a proof of them not being pay to win you omitted the only thing that is being discussed in this whole thread, thus making a logical fallacy.

So premium tabs are not Pay2Win?
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greyspear wrote:
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Mannoth wrote:
I will again point to at my posts in this thread, in which you will notice that I never stated that the current state of premium tabs is pay to win, and as such I have nothing to prove at all.

I however did point out that in your post as a proof of them not being pay to win you omitted the only thing that is being discussed in this whole thread, thus making a logical fallacy.

So premium tabs are not Pay2Win?


I never stated they are, and in my opinion in the current state they aren't, but they might become in the near future.
That being said my opinion isn't relevant in the grand scheme of things as individuals can't really make changes in these kind of things, I only enjoy the discussion if it is being held by reasonable people.
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greyspear wrote:
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Mannoth wrote:
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greyspear wrote:

I'm not ignoring it, but don't I first need to have items that I can sell? Without them do I have nothing of value and thus the value doesn't come from having premium tabs, but from having those items.

It seems rather that you are jealous over the items that people hold in those tabs.


Why would I be jealous exactly? It's not like I don't have big ticket items:



So clearly I am doing fine with the four basic tabs, so please don't use "jealousy" as an argument.

Why? Because you obviusly don't have premium tabs. Why exactly this makes you jealous I don't know. I'd say it's a mistake of yours and you haven't realized it yet. Only you will know. With those four items are you definitely richer, better protected and deal more damage than any new player who bought themselves hundreds of premium tabs. So it obviously cannot be Pay2Win.


You're talking about a player's skill or ability to utilize a feature relative to another. That doesn't determine whether or not something is p2w.
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GeorgAnatoly wrote:
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greyspear wrote:
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Why? Because you obviusly don't have premium tabs. Why exactly this makes you jealous I don't know. I'd say it's a mistake of yours and you haven't realized it yet. Only you will know. With those four items are you definitely richer, better protected and deal more damage than any new player who bought themselves hundreds of premium tabs. So it obviously cannot be Pay2Win.


You're talking about a player's skill or ability to utilize a feature relative to another. That doesn't determine whether or not something is p2w.

Actually, yes it does, because if it didn't then you could complain about it not being Pay2Win since obviously you would have paid for something that didn't give you a win.

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