Pay 2 Win Premium Tabs Features - why GGG lies

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

Use of a 3rd party site does not change the fact that GGG was very underhanded and sneaky about all of this.

ggg enabled that 3rd party tools by api and promoted their use by forum posts stating they are legit.
please, tell me how wow addons are 3rd party tools and thus are bad. they are using blizzard api, lua language and created by players.
same here.
if you worried about credentials, again, there are alternative way of using them, that is also enabled by ggg.

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johnKeys wrote:

I will not discuss Procurement, PoE Trade, or any other thing that is not part of the game, and I don't care how long you have been using it.
End of story.

You want to counter my post you use a gameplay counter, like for example I could make more characters to mule and hideout benches for storage, given lack of normal tabs.

I doubt you will find one in this case, because it does not currently exist inside the game.

poe wiki and community guides here are also 3rd party, as all dps and other useful spreadsheets.
dont you use them?
ah, apparently you dont, i forgot about infernal mantle issue.
and i repeat that questions.
how addons in wow, for example, are bad, as they are written by 3rd party.

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mezmery wrote:

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

Use of a 3rd party site does not change the fact that GGG was very underhanded and sneaky about all of this.

ggg enabled that 3rd party tools by api and promoted their use by forum posts stating they are legit.
please, tell me how wow addons are 3rd party tools.

Either the site is GGG's or the site is not GGG's.

Site is not, tools are not, ergo the tools and site are 3rd party. This isn't even semantics, it's pretty much just a basic definition of terms.

Whether you choose to use them or not is your own prerogative but there are direct quotes from GGG in this very thread that indicate they understand the issues associated with relying on 3rd party software/sites therefore one can only assume that as GGG has admitted these tools are 3rd party the tools are in fact 3rd party.

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

Use of a 3rd party site does not change the fact that GGG was very underhanded and sneaky about all of this.

ggg enabled that 3rd party tools by api and promoted their use by forum posts stating they are legit.
please, tell me how wow addons are 3rd party tools.

Either the site is GGG's or the site is not GGG's.

so you wont use wiki, cause it's not ggg's directly?
ok
also content at this site is not created by ggg.
it is created by players, so dont use it, as you character may die using build from one of that threads!

I assisted in writing some of them you ....

And no, they are not part of the game and not even related in any way, shape or form related to the topic at hand.

Just ... either come up with something worth my time or just stop.
And I'm being subtle here because you are fucking driving me insane.

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johnKeys wrote:

I assisted in writing some of them you ....

And no, they are not part of the game and not even related in any way, shape or form related to the topic at hand.

Just ... either come up with something worth my time or just stop.
And I'm being subtle here because you are fucking driving me insane.

if you valued your time you wouldnt beed wasting not even at videogame, but at videogame forum

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mezmery wrote:

so you wont use wiki, cause it's not ggg's directly?
ok
also content at this site is not created by ggg.
it is created by players, so dont use it, as you character may die using build from one of that threads!

I feel like you are being deliberately obtuse. Your statement implied that because the sites are "sanctioned" they are not 3rd party. This is incorrect. I am merely telling you that it is incorrect.

I am in no way saying players should or should not use 3rd party sites. My exact words were: It is your own prerogative; meaning it is entirely up to you what you use and I have no opinion on it being right or wrong. If you are going to ceaselessly pick apart everyone's posts by misrepresenting and misunderstanding information in an attempt to derail the entire thread I won't discuss the issue with you.

For the hard of reading: GGG said themselves there are issues with relying on 3rd party sites for trading. These statements are quoted by others in this very thread.

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

Your statement implied that because the sites are "sanctioned" they are not 3rd party.

i have never claimed that, and you know it.

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mezmery wrote:

ggg enabled that 3rd party tools by api and promoted their use by forum posts stating they are legit.
please, tell me how wow addons are 3rd party tools.

Actually, you did.

Anyways, my primary issue is I feel a little sullied by having this paid advantage as I have avoided P2W games in the past. I also feel like GGG did make it sound as though they were going to make trade easier for all, not just for those with money. Beyond that I do appreciate their efforts. It is more a matter of transparency and integrity for me than anything else.

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

ggg enabled that 3rd party tools by api and promoted their use by forum posts stating they are legit.
please, tell me how wow addons are 3rd party tools.

Actually, you did.

quote then

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Dos_Fafner wrote:

These statements are quoted by others in this very thread.

there is still no alternative, and core of their "trade improvement" is 3rd party site.
you cant use native feature without 3rd party site, it's not self-sufficient.
i have no idea, taking in account stated above, how using 3rd party softare for using 3rd party site can be wrong somehow.