Pay 2 Win Premium Tabs Features - why GGG lies

I'm fairly new to the game and I've bought myself some premium tabs.

How did I win? Was there supposed to be anything valuable in those tabs? Mine were empty.
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greyspear wrote:
I'm fairly new to the game and I've bought myself some premium tabs.

How did I win? Was there supposed to be anything valuable in those tabs? Mine were empty.


you win by now having options people without, don't.
options I personally don't care much about because economy is Satan, but an advantage nonetheless.

Stash Tabs always stood out among MTX as "borderline-P2W", by giving you advantage where other MTX gave you eye-candy, but it was an advantage that could caught up by gameplay.
excruciating, time-consuming, fucking hell of a gameplay and Tetrising and alternates and Mule Characters and whatnot... but yeah at least you could.

now there's going to be one thing at least, you will not be able to. plain and simple.

and every counter-argument would be just BS, including my favorite "why u no support GGG" which makes a tiny bit of sense among the ocean of bullshit.
tiny, because you can support GGG by buying a pet or a gear effect... and guess what it can even cost more than Tabs.

I'm a fan of this game. for literally years. but am not a blind fan-boy. there's a difference.
and while I hope OP's OP was more intelligent and less click-bait trollish - he makes perfect sense to me in the point he's trying to get across, and I wish GGG revert this decision.

... aand then fan-boys bash him as usual, and will likely come at me too.
so come at me.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on Apr 2, 2016, 8:39:07 AM
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johnKeys wrote:
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greyspear wrote:
I'm fairly new to the game and I've bought myself some premium tabs.

How did I win? Was there supposed to be anything valuable in those tabs? Mine were empty.


you win by now having options people without, don't.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/172710
No rest for the wicked
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mezmery wrote:
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johnKeys wrote:
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greyspear wrote:
I'm fairly new to the game and I've bought myself some premium tabs.

How did I win? Was there supposed to be anything valuable in those tabs? Mine were empty.


you win by now having options people without, don't.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/172710


would you please stop using a 3rd party tool that has nothing to do with the game or its development team, as a "counter argument"?

RNGesus fucking christ that annoys me so much it's such a fucking stupid claim
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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johnKeys wrote:


would you please stop using a 3rd party tool that has nothing to do with the game or its development team, as a "counter argument"?

RNGesus fucking christ that annoys me so much it's such a fucking stupid claim

everyone has been using this 3rd party tool since beta.
what exactly changed during last month?
im still using it, because of stash search. acquisition is better, but im used to this one though.
No rest for the wicked
Last edited by mezmery#2042 on Apr 2, 2016, 8:51:05 AM
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mezmery wrote:
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johnKeys wrote:


would you please stop using a 3rd party tool that has nothing to do with the game or its development team, as a "counter argument"?

RNGesus fucking christ that annoys me so much it's such a fucking stupid claim

everyone has been using this 3rd party tool since beta.
what exactly changed during last month?
im still using it, because of stash search. acquisition is better, but im used to this one though.


Do I really need to fucking spell this out for you?
It is not an option that is officially part of the game and made part of the game by the team.
The guy could literally start charging money for it tomorrow or turn the site into an RMT hub with bonus viruses and trojans - and your argument will be exposed in its full mind-blowing stupidity.

I will not respond to this kind of claim again.
It makes me want to punch the fucking screen.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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johnKeys wrote:

Do I really need to fucking spell this out for you?
It is not an option that is officially part of the game and made part of the game by the team.
The guy could literally start charging money for it tomorrow or turn the site into an RMT hub with bonus viruses and trojans - and your argument will be exposed in its full mind-blowing stupidity.

I will not respond to this kind of claim again.
It makes me want to punch the fucking screen.

when it happens, we'll discuss it separately.
what exactly changed during last month, that i can't use procurement for trade?
are there any facts that dont allow me to use it same way i've been using it for 3 years?
please list them.
No rest for the wicked
Last edited by mezmery#2042 on Apr 2, 2016, 9:02:49 AM
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johnKeys wrote:


would you please stop using a 3rd party tool that has nothing to do with the game or its development team, as a "counter argument"?

RNGesus fucking christ that annoys me so much it's such a fucking stupid claim
to use your expression, ffs. GGG relied, enabled, and encouraged these 3rd party tools. They are as much a part of this game as the website. In your 3+ years here, have you ever used this website for information on mechanics or build knowledge or anything at all that aided you in the game? If it's "outside" the game, then couldn't you say you cheated? Is that a stretch? Of course. And so is your claim. Your argument that 3rd party tools don't count is BS when clearly GGG was relying on the community to make these tools for them.
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you win by now having options people without, don't.

And now your definition of p2w is paying for additional options? Come on! Options?

And the claim of "what if" when referring to these 3rd party tools is meaningless. I'll tell you what if. If xyz starts charging people for not using the trade forums and only listing items from public tabs, the entire community including me will be united in saying that those tabs are p2w. But "what if"is not "it is" so stop using that as a selling point of your argument. Everybody on my side of the argument thinks it's a BS argument.
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Last edited by mark1030#3643 on Apr 2, 2016, 9:13:07 AM
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mezmery wrote:
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johnKeys wrote:

Do I really need to fucking spell this out for you?
It is not an option that is officially part of the game and made part of the game by the team.
The guy could literally start charging money for it tomorrow or turn the site into an RMT hub with bonus viruses and trojans - and your argument will be exposed in its full mind-blowing stupidity.

I will not respond to this kind of claim again.
It makes me want to punch the fucking screen.

when it happens, we'll discuss it separately.
what exactly changed during last month, that i can't use procurement for trade?
are there any facts that dont allow me to use it same way i've been using it for 3 years?
please list them.


Use of a 3rd party site does not change the fact that GGG was very underhanded and sneaky about all of this.

You can reference the Q&A from Chris yourself but, in short, he stated Trade QoL features were something that weren't very marketable and, as such, they had been delayed BUT that they were on the way. The implication from his post was that these improvements were "on the way" for everyone. The reality is that these improvements were made "marketable" by being released for only the paying section of the community.

From my own personal standpoint, I DO NOT LIKE that being a paying member gives me an advantage over non-paying members. Even if you call it a small advantage it is still an advantage over players that do not choose to use 3rd party sites for trading which, by the way, no one should be forced to do in order to level the playing field.
I will not discuss Procurement, PoE Trade, or any other thing that is not part of the game, and I don't care how long you have been using it.
End of story.

You want to counter my post you use a gameplay counter, like for example I could make more characters to mule and hideout benches for storage, given lack of normal tabs.

I doubt you will find one in this case, because it does not currently exist inside the game.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
Last edited by johnKeys#6083 on Apr 2, 2016, 9:13:46 AM

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