Pay 2 Win Premium Tabs Features - why GGG lies

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johnKeys wrote:
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mark1030 wrote:


So those "p2w" premium stash tabs are 100% undeniably useless without 3rd party tools. There is absolutely no way an item in one of those tabs will sell if ...



Way to take one false claim, and build an entire theory around it.
But at least you tried harder than the "wiki is p2w" and "butterfly" posts before you.

so amusing to read posts from infernal mantle expert
No rest for the wicked
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johnKeys wrote:
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mark1030 wrote:


So those "p2w" premium stash tabs are 100% undeniably useless without 3rd party tools. There is absolutely no way an item in one of those tabs will sell if ...



Way to take one false claim, and build an entire theory around it.
But at least you tried harder than the "wiki is p2w" and "butterfly" posts before you.
What claim is false? Do you have a way to see what's in my public tabs that I don't know about? The only way I know of to see inside a public stash tab is to use a 3rd party tool.
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Play Nice and Show Some Class www.theamazonbasin.com
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johnKeys wrote:

This is utter BS.
Do you have anything... anything on topic or just soccer teams and butterfly effects?
And you keep bringing up this "jealousy" crap like it has anything to with the discussion, when it doesn't.

Are you saying it is impossible to be jealous over premium stash tabs?
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mezmery wrote:
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johnKeys wrote:
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mark1030 wrote:


So those "p2w" premium stash tabs are 100% undeniably useless without 3rd party tools. There is absolutely no way an item in one of those tabs will sell if ...



Way to take one false claim, and build an entire theory around it.
But at least you tried harder than the "wiki is p2w" and "butterfly" posts before you.

so amusing to read posts from infernal mantle expert


I am also an expert in sorting crap out of on-topic.
I won't say your post is a spit on the ToS, because in my rage I made a couple posts like that too.
But I'd say your post is extremely high-quality furtilizer.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun
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ScrotieMcB wrote:


I just want GGG to rewrite 1 inaccurate sentence from the game description. P2W isn't evil really, just bad when taken to extremes.
I'll agree with you on this one. If they just say "you can't pay for any in game items that make your character more powerful" people would stop interpreting what GGG means by "ethical" and "p2w".
Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN>
Play Nice and Show Some Class www.theamazonbasin.com
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
Additional stash tabs have been p2w for a long, long time.

Please explain how. I, too, want to believe it deep down in my heart. Yet, I am poor as f' and keep dying on low tier maps.

How can I become a winner? I already have those premium stash tabs. Please help me and make me rich and powerful! Please!!

I take anything you've got to give away. My premium stash tabs are waiting to be filled with riches beyond my wildest dreams. Give now!!

*lol*

Honestly, I take whatever you can give me! Make me a believer of your Pay2Win claim.
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mark1030 wrote:
If 3rd party tools don't count as a free alternative to in game functions, then you also can't count poe.trade or anything else that uses the api GGG made available.

So those "p2w" premium stash tabs are 100% undeniably useless without 3rd party tools. There is absolutely no way an item in one of those tabs will sell if you take 3rd party tools out of the equation. So arguing that 3rd party tools "don't count" is nonsense if you're trying to show any inkling of an in game advantage of public stash tabs.


It's still a matter of is there an advantage in using 1st party over 3rd party, doesn't matter how small or why just if there is one.

Edit: I mean only when defining if something is p2w not it's fairness or how ethical it is.
Last edited by GeorgAnatoly#4189 on Apr 2, 2016, 12:42:47 PM
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mark1030 wrote:
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
I just want GGG to rewrite 1 inaccurate sentence from the game description. P2W isn't evil really, just bad when taken to extremes.
I'll agree with you on this one. If they just say "you can't pay for any in game items that make your character more powerful" people would stop interpreting what GGG means by "ethical" and "p2w".
I'd even accept "based on an ethical microtransaction model." I don't think p2w and ethical are mutually exclusive; those who believe p2w necessary implies unethical have to say "additional tabs aren't p2w!" when they clearly are, because then they'd have to say additional tabs are unethical, when it's fair to believe they're not.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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johnKeys wrote:


I am also an expert in sorting crap out of on-topic.
I won't say your post is a spit on the ToS, because in my rage I made a couple posts like that too.
But I'd say your post is extremely high-quality furtilizer.

uses obligatory 3rd party sites@still cries about 3rd party
No rest for the wicked
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mezmery wrote:
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johnKeys wrote:


I am also an expert in sorting crap out of on-topic.
I won't say your post is a spit on the ToS, because in my rage I made a couple posts like that too.
But I'd say your post is extremely high-quality furtilizer.

uses obligatory 3rd party sites@still cries about 3rd party


At this point I am pretty convinced you are trolling, since you have been told multiple times it's not about 3rd party sites being "good" or "bad". It is about 3rd party sites not being a side in the argument of p2w or not, simply because they are 3rd party.

The only one who seriously tried - in the lake of crap that's the previous couple pages - to draw a connection between the claims, was Mark.
And while I still think it's an incorrect comparison, truth be told I'd rather argue with him than with the likes of you.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun

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