Izaro - Is he overtuned?

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I think he and lab are fine. No buffs. No nerfs. Leave as is please.

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He is not overtuned in normal (my opinion)
Lvd to 39 before doing the lab for the first time with self found gear .Didnt even have to use a pot..
Dominius before GGG nerfed him was much worse.

Overleveling the content by 20+ seems to do the trick just fine. Which means I'll be doing the merciless lab once I hit level 90. Enough time for GGG to introduce some changes too.

Definitely overtuned on Cruel. I have over 3k hp, 10k dps on Cruel and if I don't dodge his sword wave I get one shot through 3k armor. And with a total of 13k dps on single target with flame totem + orb of storm AND double curse (Conductivity + Assassin's mark), I still can't bring him down below 66% under 30 seconds, which means I run out of flask charges, and blargh.

I dont think they need a nerf at all, i did normal at lvl 36 cruel at lvl 58 and merci at lvl 67 facetanked all 3 easy also i killed argus on merci and he was a lot harder than merci izaro for me as a melee to facetank.

If you are a melee you need good def i have 3600 hp, 5k armour, 8 end charges, arctic armour and fortify on leap slam i also use lion's roar (amazing flask for phys melee) and basalt flask.

You cant just reach lab and rush it you need to be prepared and careful thats why i like it and dont think it needs a nerf.

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eWlu wrote:

I dont think they need a nerf at all, i did normal at lvl 36 cruel at lvl 58 and merci at lvl 67 facetanked all 3 easy also i killed argus on merci and he was a lot harder than merci izaro for me as a melee to facetank.

If you are a melee you need good def i have 3600 hp, 5k armour, 8 end charges, arctic armour and fortify on leap slam i also use lion's roar (amazing flask for phys melee) and basalt flask.

You cant just reach lab and rush it you need to be prepared and careful thats why i like it and dont think it needs a nerf.

What build?
I tried at around lvl40 with bladefall on norm and failed, did it at lvl58, still farming gear for cruel. Btw drops are shit. No progression, some of my gear are from normal and i am at lvl70+

I am using ice crash, you can look at my gear its nothing amazing i got the important gear (5l, weapons, ring thats specific for my build) cheap rest is self found, if you want to see my build you can also look at the skill tree.

I think normal should be nerfed, as many builds are not ready for the content then and it is when newer players evaluate the game. Just because some veterans can do does not mean everyone can do. Had some members of my guild ragequit POE due to Lab (One comment was: Back to WoW, while that person was consistently playing many hours a day for some weeks be4 the patch, did not see online afterwards).

Actually i've done that on cruel while still at 55 and somehow maneged to get through.

But i had 2.2k life and 400 es and i got almost oneshotted. I think that somehow Izaro's damage spikes a little bit to much.

Take in account that he had only flame conduit active on this run.

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SoujiroSeta wrote:

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zSavage wrote:

A few things:

1. Izaro doesn't perform a lot of his most dangerous attacks if he's close to you.

I can confirm this. Izaro 1 shot me only from distance (3k HP, capped res, 1.8k AR with Unwavering Stance in cruel)

Wow 3k hp in cruel and still 1 shot. Lol I had 2k and 0 armor, lol, when I fought him. Good think I'm upclose huh. He did almost 1 shot me with his ground pound aoe slam though.

He one shotted me at 3,5k HP in the Cruel Laby(Lv56). But i've to say, today i know that i buffed him with all 3 elemental damage versions in one phase, lol.

The problem isn't his damage, the problem is the non-available transperancy. Because you just don't know shit the first times you doing him. A bit more communication from GGG side would've saved them a lot of complains in the Forum..just so people know what to click and to kill to not make him a 1 shotter in the 3rd phase...

That they tuned him down in normal is okay. I would've tuned him down substantial in normal. Its the place were newer player running through the game the first time. They really dont need such a damage spike there.

It's a bit annoying for a newer player like me. I don't mind a hard fight, I don't mind losing that fight and having to start over.

The thing that really bugs me is the HUGE difference between the labyrinth itself and Izaro. You basically have to be overleveled to the point where the labyrinth is zero fun and is giving you zero rewards to have a decent chance at beating Izaro. The labyrinth has so much potential with all its secrets and traps but what it ends up being is an annoying gauntlet you spam movement skills though in order to get another shot at the actual challenge.

I would be much happier with how hard Izaro is if he was the exact same difficulty but the zone level was a good 10 levels higher.



Maybe I just lack the experience to do well at boss fights, but it seems poorly balanced to me.